Prayerlessness is Sin and also Very Risky Business


Jesus wants us to be HOT Christians, not lukewarm Laodicians. It takes fervent, sincere prayer to build up your most holy faith. I heard an over the wall Calvinist type mystery meat “teacher” telling his groupies on PalTalk that you shouldn’t listen to anyone who tells you that you should pray more or read your bible more. Well, let me tell you that man  is a liar and a deceiver. See our post…

Considering how the flesh wars against the Spirit and the Spirit wars against the flesh, we need all the help from God we can get in these evil, perilous days, with temptations and trials assailing us from every direction.Prayer and obedience is key!

But if we truly love the LORD JESUS, we will discipline ourselves to prayer. Prayer is not just a necessity to the Christian, we need to remember it’s a privilege to be granted the right to come before the LORD in prayer. Of course, the kind of false message this mystery meat online self appointed “teacher” was spoon-feeding his deceived “flock”, appeals to the flesh, and the flesh would no doubt respond, saying, “Hey, that sounds good to me, I’m tired so I can go watch a movie or some football on TV, and have a cold brew instead of spending time in prayer”. That’s because prayer is not a “natural” act to the flesh, it’s a spiritual action.

Quite simply, that’s why the flesh wars so hard against prayer. Spirit led prayer is spiritual, not earthly and carnal. Jesus wants to fellowship with us. Do we expect to hear from Him, or be granted petitions when we’ve pushed Him away, or neglected Him? No, just as with any true relationship, love and friendship with Jesus, our relationship with Him must be nourished, and cherished.

Jesus prayed….and He encourages us to pray as well. If we love Him, we will take heed to that, and not neglect our prayer life.


Next…a good message about obedience being crucial to God answering our prayers!


The Conditions for Power in Prayer


The following lesson was developed from the writings of Steve Bray- “The Faith that Prays.”)


And whatever we ask we receive from Him, because we keep His commandments and do those things that are pleasing in His sight. (1 John 3:22)


The advance of a spiritual kingdom cannot be worked out through the strength of the flesh. It is not unusual to assume that progress is being made when we are developing programs and religious activities through our human plans and efforts. But the things that take place on the natural plane of life do not advance the true kingdom of God. While these activities may draw people to the church, the real fight of faith entails becoming partakers with Christ in His eternal Kingdom-life. “Fight the good fight of faith, lay hold on eternal life, to which you were also called…” (1 Tim. 6:12) In God’s kingdom everything is worked out through faith because He insists on being the source of everything.

Christ is now in a place of power and authority where He can begin doing these “greater works” through the members of His body here on earth. It is not a work that can be accomplished through fleshly efforts. To be effective, it will be necessary to begin fighting the real battle that takes place in the spiritual realm. “For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.” (Eph. 6:12)

The kingdom of God is a spiritual kingdom of righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit. The kingdom advances as individuals become filled with the Spirit and walk by the Spirit. Human programs do not have the needed power to advance this heavenly kingdom.

The people of God must begin to see that the advancement of this spiritual kingdom is dependent on prayer. If church leaders were to concentrate on one plea and exhortation, it should be this: “Brethren, pray for us.” (2 Thess. 3:1)

But this confronts us with another critical question: What if there is something in the church that prevents our prayers from being heard? Every congregation needs to consider this matter with the utmost priority. We cannot expect to have spiritual progress if God refuses to listen to us because there is sin in the camp. Listen to the words of the Lord as He speaks to Joshua after Israel’s defeat at Ai:

So the Lord said to Joshua: “Get up! Why do you lie thus on your face {in prayer}? Israel has sinned, and they have also transgressed My covenant which I commanded them… Get up, sanctify the people… O Israel; you cannot stand before your enemies until you take away the accursed thing from among you.” (Josh. 7:10-13)

A careful study of the Scriptures will reveal how the prayers of an unholy people become an abomination in the sight of God. The Lord said to His called-out people of old, “When you spread out your hands, I will hide My eyes from you; Even though you make many prayers, I will not hear.” (Isa. 1:15) Why did He refuse to listen to them? It was because they were not walking according to His ways.

When God’s people begin to live for themselves, and hoard for their own pleasures the things that should be fully devoted to His work, they will be resisted. Dear children of God, you have been granted a glorious privilege. There are some exceedingly great and precious promises available to you. But you separate yourself and the church from God’s glory and power when you live for yourself and the temporal pleasures of this world.

Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. (1 John 2:15)

“Has a nation changed its gods, which are not gods? But My people have changed their Glory for what does not profit. Be astonished, O heavens, at this, and be horribly afraid; Be very desolate,” says the Lord. “For My people have committed two evils: They have forsaken Me, the fountain of living waters, and hewn themselves cisterns—broken cisterns that can hold no water. (Jer. 2:11-13)

And what agreement has the temple of God with idols? For you are the temple of the living God. As God has said: “I will dwell in them…” Therefore “Come out from among them and be separate, says the Lord. Do not touch what is unclean {anything that is not fully devoted to the Lord}, and I will receive you… Therefore, having these promises, beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God. (2 Cor 6:16-7:1)

God cannot hear the prayers of His people until they have devoted themselves and everything they have to Him. “Get up, sanctify the people… O Israel; you cannot stand before your enemies until you take away the accursed thing from among you.” We sanctify ourselves by presenting our bodies to the Lord as living sacrifices. (Rom. 12:1) We were redeemed for the purpose of living for His kingdom and glory.

In reality, those who are following the devil’s self-exalting and self-seeking way of life are still living in darkness under his dominion. “This wisdom does not descend from above, but is earthly, sensual, demonic. For where envy {with its source in self-exaltation} and self-seeking exist, confusion and every evil thing are there.” (Jam. 3:15-16) The devil is the one who introduced the self-exalting and self-seeking way of life to the world. “And the whole world lies under the sway of the wicked one.” (1 John 5:19) And the Lord will not hear us until we come out from this worldly way of life.

Many of the members of Christ’s church have been living for their own little kingdoms. They have taken of the things that should have been devoted to the Lord and used these resources to live for their own pleasures. Like Nebuchadnezzar, they are attempting to build an image of their own. They want others to pay homage and give them honor for what they have accomplished. This means of finding life by responding to the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eye and the pride of life has led the church into perilous times in these last days. No wonder we have remained so powerless!

But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud… headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away! (2 Tim. 3:1-5)

The apostle Paul does not intend for us to turn away from the people of this world. They still need someone to show them how to escape from this carnal darkness. When the apostle tells us to separate from people who remain caught up in this way of life he is referring to people in the church. Their unsanctified state is actually separating the church from the power of God. In the same sense that God refused to answer the payers of Joshua when there was sin in the camp, we too can expect to remain separated from the power of God while we continue to refer to people as Christians when they insist on living in an unsanctified state.

The individual members of the church will need to turn away from the self-exalting and self-seeking ways of the devil before the body of Christ can become powerful in prayer. This truth must be emphasized even if it ends up driving many away from the congregation. Only then will the church be in a place to carry out the supernatural work of God in the spiritual realm. It is better to have a few souls who can reach the Lord in prayer than to have a large congregation of people who are separating the whole church from the power of God.

There is nothing wrong with people coming to church in their carnal state to hear the word of God. But they should never be permitted to think they are members of Christ’s body while they are still following the devil’s self-exalting and self-seeking way of life.

For the love of Christ compels us, because we judge thus: that if one died for all, then all died; and He died for all, that those who live should live no longer for themselves, but for Him who died for them and rose again. (2 Cor. 5:14-15)

According to our original text, there are certain things that must be done before our prayers can become effective. It says, “Whatever we ask we receive from Him, because we keep His commandments and do those things that are pleasing in His sight.” Are the members of the church truly surrendered to doing what is pleasing in God’s sight? Do they have the mind of Christ? Have they chosen to have “no reputation” of their own, or are they still expending their time and resources in an attempt to build up their own little kingdoms in order to impress their neighbors? It is sad, but even many of our leaders are now following the self-exalting and self-seeking ways of the devil. No wonder the church has remained so powerless!

We need to make this distinction. There is a great difference between the prayer of a sinner seeking God’s mercy and the prayer of someone who is resisting revealed light. We say to the reader—no matter how spiritually depraved you may now be—if you sincerely seek the mercy of God and yield your whole being to become a vessel of Christ’s “light of life,” you can depend on Him to save you from all sin. His eyes are always searching for individuals who are fully surrendered to His ways. “For the eyes of the Lord range throughout the earth to strengthen those whose hearts are fully committed to him.” (2 Chron. 16:9 NIV) Anyone who is willing to live through the Son can expect God to lead them into this life of promise. Even though there will be much light that needs to be opened to the heart as these believers move forward in their yielded walk of faith, God will recognize their repentance, and the Spirit will begin His work of leading them into all truth.

However, those who have already been called out by God will need to sanctify themselves to the Lord before He will hear them. It implies making a full surrender to the revealed light of truth no matter how painful it may be to the flesh-life. “Get up, sanctify the people…” He will not hear from anyone who has not turned from their old self-directed way of life and have submitted to being led by Christ’s Spirit alone. “For if you live according to the flesh {according to your own will and desires} you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live. For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God.” (Rom. 8:13-14)

And whoever does not bear his cross and come after Me cannot be My disciple… So likewise, whoever of you does not forsake all that he has {from his old worldly way of life} cannot be My disciple. (Luke 14:27, 33)

No one, having put his hand to the plow, and looking back {to the ways of this world}, is fit for the kingdom of God. (Luke 9:62)

The right to receive answers to prayer is given to the obedient. We are now referring to the honors and special favors of God’s house that are given or withheld according to our responsiveness to His Spirit. He answers our prayers “because we keep His commandments and do those things that are pleasing in His sight.” It may be helpful to hear what R.A. Torrey said about this verse in How to Pray.

One of the most significant verses in the Bible on prayer is 1 John 3:22. John says, “And whatsoever we ask, we receive of Him, because we keep His commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in His sight.”… In other words, the one who expects God to do as he asks Him must on his part do what God bids him. If we give a listening ear to all God’s commands to us, He will give a listening ear to all our petitions to Him… Here we find the secret of much unanswered prayer. We are not listening to God’s Word, and therefore He is not listening to our petition…

If we would have power in prayer, we must be earnest students of His Word to find out what His will regarding us is, and then having found it, do it… But this verse goes beyond the mere keeping of God’s commandments. John tells us that we must do those things that are pleasing in His sight.

There are many things which it would be pleasing to God for us to do which he has not specifically commanded us. A true child is not content with merely doing those things which he specifically commands him to do. He studies to know his father’s will, and if he thinks that there is anything that he can do that would please his father, he does it gladly…

There are many Christians today who are doing things that are not pleasing to God, and leaving undone things which would be pleasing to God. When you speak to them about these things they will confront you at once with the question, “Is there any command in the Bible not to do this thing?” And if you cannot show them some verse in which the matter in question is plainly forbidden, they think they are under no obligation whatever to give it up… Here again we find the explanation of much unanswered prayer: We are not making it the study of our lives to know what would please our Father, and so our prayers are not answered.

Those who neglect the conditions which are connected to the promises will find themselves being shut out from these glorious privileges. The Lord always deals with His people according to how they have responded to His ways: “Oh, that My people would listen to Me, that Israel would walk in My ways! I would soon subdue their enemies, and turn My hand against their adversaries… And with honey from the rock I would have satisfied you.” (Ps. 81:13-14, 16) Have you entered into this victorious life where God has begun to feed your soul with honey from the rock?

It is time to begin examining our lives to determine who is truly being served! Those who are still serving themselves by seeking to accumulate the temporal things of this world for their spiritual fulfillment and security should expect God to speak to them in the same way He spoke to His called-out people in the Old Testament: “You have forsaken Me and served other gods. Therefore I will deliver you no more. Go and cry out to the gods which you have chosen; let them deliver you in your time of distress.” (Jud. 10:13-14) Again, let us listen to R.A. Torrey on this matter:

[A] hindrance to prayer is found in Ezek. 14:3, “Son of man, these men have taken their idols into their heart, and put the stumbling block of their iniquity before their face: should I be inquired of at all by them?” (RV) Idols in the heart cause God to refuse to listen to our prayers.

God will not listen to those who go on willfully in their own way. He says, “if you walk contrary to Me, and are not willing to obey Me…then I also will walk contrary to you, and I will punish you…” (Lev. 16:21, 24) You may even think He is treating you with favor as your self-exalting and self-seeking spirit continues to accumulate things for your spiritual support. But in the end these things only lead to spiritual sickness, and eventually to spiritual death. We need to remember how God chose to answer the prayers of Israel as they willfully sought fleshly sustenance. While the meat was still in their mouth it became a curse to their lives.

But while the meat was still between their teeth, before it was chewed, the wrath of the Lord was aroused against the people, and the Lord struck the people with a very great plague…there they buried the people {in the wilderness} who had yielded to craving. (Num. 11:33-34)

Now these things became our examples, to the intent that we should not lust after evil things {anything that has its source in the flesh-life of self and not in the Father}as they also lusted. And do not become idolaters {all heart idols must go}as were some of them. As it is written, “The people sat down to eat and drink, and rose up to play.” (1 Cor 10:6-8)

If a person truly dwells in God, and the fullness of the Son’s life of divine love dwells in him, he will desire what the Son desires. This believer, as he lives in harmony with the Lord’s life of holy love, will naturally sacrifice himself to live for the good of others, just as the Son does. He desires the Father’s glory, and so does the Son. He desires his life to be an example of holiness, and so does the Son. He abides in the life of the Son, and the Son abides in him. He is therefore in a position to have his prayers answered. “If you abide in Me, and My words abide in you, you will ask what you desire, and it shall be done for you.” (John 15:7)

We know there is a need in this day for God to send a great blessing of revival on the church at large. But have we met the requisite conditions for successfully calling down this revival fire? In faith, have we truly given ourselves to live as vessels of the Son’s life and will? Do we know what it means to have the mind of Christ?

The spiritual life of the individual members of the church will need to be revived before the church can become powerful in the spiritual realm and begin furthering the kingdom of light in this world. Christians must give up their heart idols and look to Christ to be the source of their spiritual life before they can be revived. But the question arises as to whether the people really want to enter into this great salvation. There are people who are praying for revival but they are holding onto a lifestyle that reveals how they really do not want what it would bring. They have not fully responded in sincerity to what the Spirit would have worked out in their own life if He had full reign. Once again we will turn to R.A. Torrey for his comments:

Psalm 145:18 throws a great deal of light on the question of how to pray: “The Lord is nigh unto all them that call upon Him, to all that call upon Him in truth.” That little expression “in truth” is worthy of study. If you will take your concordance and go through the Bible, you will find that this expression means “in reality” or “in sincerity.” The prayer that God answers is the prayer that is real, the prayer that asks for something that is sincerely desired…

Many a church is praying for a revival that does not really desire a revival. They think they do, for to their minds a revival means an increase of membership, an increase of income, an increase of reputation among the churches; but if they knew what a real revival meant, what a searching of hearts on the part of professed Christians would be involved, what a radical transformation of individual, domestic and social life would be brought about, and many other things that would come to pass if the Spirit of God was poured out in reality and power; if all this were known, the real cry of the church would be “O God, keep us from having a revival.”

Many a minister is praying for the baptism with the Holy Spirit who does not really desire it. He thinks he does, for the baptism with the Spirit means to him new joy, new power in preaching the Word, a wider reputation among men, a larger prominence in the church of Christ. But if he understood what a baptism with the Holy Spirit really involved, how for example it would necessarily bring him into antagonism with the world, and with unspiritual Christians, how it would cause his name to be “cast out as evil,” how it might necessitate his leaving a good comfortable living…if he understood all this, his prayer quite likely would be—if he were to express the real wish of his heart,—“O God, save me from being baptized with the Holy Ghost.”

But when we do come to the place where we really desire the conversion of friends at any cost, really desire the outpouring of the Holy Spirit whatever it may involve, really desire the baptism with the Holy Ghost come what come may, where we desire anything “in truth” and then call upon God for it “in truth,” God is going to hear.

If each of the members of Christ’s body would have this mind, the church would begin to change things by the power that is now available through prayer. The true kingdom of God would begin to spread today in the same way it did in the first century. Then the people of the world would begin to say of us as they did of the early church: “These who have turned the world upside down have come here too.” (Acts 17:6)


The Body of Christ or a Hospital for Sinners?

The Church is not a hospital for sinners. It’s not an outreach or a place for evangelism.

(Evangelism has it’s place and Christian outreaches ministering to the unsaved are good things and in God’s will, but not intended to be in the assembly of  believers, as the scriptures clearly show. )

As I was web surfing for grist for the blog mill tonight my eyes fastened on this heading, “Is the Church a Hospital?” I instantly recognized this cliche from way back in my own churchianity days, when the blinders were still on. It was another one of those many cliches the church had to cover up their own failures, sins and the reason nothing ever changed. The church had become home to those who had “bloomed where they were planted”, and faded there, and kept there for fear of leaving due to various threats such as the accusation of being a “church hopper”, if you dared to check out other local churches in the area because just maybe you were sick of the one you were in. Well, except for the all too frequent new comer, dysfunctional sinner, someone had invited to church,(the hospital), where they were supposed to get fixed, but usually didn’t.

Anyways, I was thrilled when I saw this heading because I just knew it was right up my alley. I’ve been saying for a long time now, the church is NOT the place for sinners, but yet, as you drive down the streets and highways, you will often see billboards inviting sinners into the church with an advertisement saying, “Sinners Welcome”, or something similar.

Folks, this is one of the biggies why I left the church. I was literally attacked by the church leadership for not being more “accepting”, “loving” and “tolerant” of downright sin and perversion going on in the church, right under their nose. I had become the problem, not the grinning sinners waving bye bye to me from the front door of the church as I beat my final exit.

The most blatant and cruel form of spiritual abuse goes on inside the church walls. The church is “supposed to be” by all scriptural accounts the spotless, holy BODY OF CHRIST, Jesus Christ’s representatives in a sinful world, the Bride of Christ without spot, wrinkle or blemish. If you are presently going to a church, can you honestly say this describes your church?

Friends, most mainstream churches bear no resemblance whatever to the early church, the church Jesus set up in the book of Acts. What’s more, please….if you are struggling with the inward feeling that you are in one of these pseudo-churches, pray for guidance that Jesus would help you leave this Babylonian harlot and find a godly fellowship.

I hope Evelyn, of’t mind my copy and pasting this to the blog. Click on the Title, (above) to go directly to her wordpress blog. Awesome stuff!

ALL credit goes to her and Jesus for her brilliant and insightful writing. I hope to lean on her often for more of her genius and experience in warning innocent travelers about the pitfalls of “doing church”.

“There’s this cliche (popular saying) in the organized church that “the church is a hospital”, but I’ve been thinking about this cliche lately. I wonder if it’s true. Is it Biblical? God symbolizes His ppl in many ways in Scripture, such as a flock of sheep, a Body, a Temple, a House, a Bride, a Vineyard, & an army. But did He ever symbolize us as a hospital??

People in the organized church say that “the church is a hospital” because it’s a place where the sick can come & be healed. Well…sorry to say, but I don’t see sick ppl coming into the organized church & being healed of sin. I see sick ppl TAKING OVER the pews & the pulpit, & spreading their sickness everywhere. I see sheep trying to get well, only to be led BACK INTO their sickness by sick shepherds & sick goats. I see ppl getting sicker than they were when they came. Is the church a hospital?? If so…I would have to liken the organized church to a hospital that practices conventional medicine, & here is why…

The ‘conventional’ medicine industry is controlled by the ruling elites. Therefore, it is the predominant (most popular) medical industry. Many ppl assume that conventional medicine is the best option because it’s popular…but it’s only popular because it has a powerful propaganda machine behind it that is fueled by the richest families in the world. Their goal is to use human beings as cash cows, encourage sickness, KEEP ppl sick, & reduce the population (especially unwanted groups such as minorities, poor whites, the mentally ill, the elderly, & the disabled) thru sickness & poisonous ‘treatments’ that create additional health problems.

Most hospitals practice ‘conventional’ medicine. Not because it’s the most effective, but because many years ago, the Rockefellers punked Western medical schools & hospitals from teaching & practicing natural medicine. The Rockefellers threatened to take away their license, fine them, shut them down, & imprison them if need be. So medical schools & hospitals quickly succumbed to the Rockefellers, who controlled the ‘conventional’ medicine industry at that time, & did not want any sort of competition.

Once again, the goal of the ‘conventional’ medicine industry is to use human beings as cash cows, encourage sickness, KEEP ppl sick, & reduce the population thru sickness & poisonous ‘treatments’ that create additional health problems or flat-out kill ppl. There are a # of ways that this is accomplished…

They do not treat the ROOT CAUSE of sickness, they only treat the symptoms. They claim that they do not know the root cause of sickness, in order to justify why they haven’t discovered or created a cure yet. This conditions the sick not to expect a cure…but to be a repeat patient. They keep coming back to the hospital for pills, surgery, chemotherapy, & radiology to treat their symptoms. For this reason, hospitals are not full of ppl who are healed. They are full of repeat patients that are not being healed. Their symptoms temporarily disappear then return, just like a weed temporarily disappears when its branches are trimmed…but eventually grows back because it wasn’t pulled up by its roots. Even many of the nurses & doctors are sick, but ppl trust them with their lives because they have been indoctrinated at “medical schools” to practice ‘conventional’ medicine. Their patients provide a residual income for the ‘conventional’ medicine industry.

This reminds me of the organized church. The root cause of sin (a sinful heart) is not being treated. People are only dealing with the symptoms. This is why there are so many books, tapes, & dvd’s on the 7-laws of this & the 5 steps to that. People want a quick fix that can trim the branches of their sins, but it’s only behavior modification. Behavior modification sounds & looks nice OUTWARDLY…but it’s only for a season. Since the sinful heart is not being dealt with by the Holy Spirit, ppl eventually return to their vomit. This reveals that they only had a FORM of godliness, but denied the power that could make them godly on the inside.

Just like ppl in hospitals say that they’re “waiting on a cure”, ppl in the organized church say “I’m waiting on God to deliver me from that” or “God hasn’t delivered me from that yet”, but the problem isn’t that God hasn’t arrived to deliver folks from sin yet. IF God is in you, then He is ever-present to deliver. The problem is a lack of repentance & a lack of perseverance/endurance. How dare we return to our vomit & then blame it on God by saying that He hasn’t delivered us from that yet. Freedom from sin is always available IF we abide in Christ’s Word…but do we want to??

The Word says that by Jesus’ stripes we are healed from our sins, but many ppl only misuse that verse to name & claim physical healing. They don’t apply it to being healed from sin (which is the proper context of it). The organized church is not full of ppl who are healed. It’s full of ppl who are groveling in their vomit & making up excuses why they commit adultery against God. Instead of abiding in God’s Word to be set free from sin, they misuse His Word as a sin-crutch…to coddle themselves in their sins & make themselves feel comfortable living in darkness. Are ppl profiting from misusing the Scriptures in that manner?? 2 Tim 3:16 says that the Scriptures are “profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness,” *reads it again* NOPE, I don’t see anything in this verse that says the Scriptures are profitable to coddle us in our sins.

There are SO many cliches in the organized church that condition ppl NOT to expect a cure for their sin. They are programmed to DIS-believe God’s promise to heal us & set us free from sin. They say “we’re all just sinners, no one’s perfect, we’ve all fallen short of God’s glory, God knows my heart, you can’t judge me, God looks past my faults & sees my need, etc.” All of these cliches that ppl use to condition themselves to REMAIN in sin & live below God’s New Covenant standard make me want to scream. I am tired of hearing them. I am tired of the “woe is me. I’ll never be set free from sin, so I might as well get comfortable in my vomit” mentality. I am tired of the “I’m glad that God’s grace covers my sins, because I’ll never overcome them” mindset. Is that what being a Christian is about? Being saved from hell, but not saved from sin??? Being forgiven, but not being delivered?? Being translated into the Kingdom of God, but not being transformed by the renewing of our mind?? Did Jesus call us out of the world, to add us to a so-called “hospital” that doesn’t heal folks?? I think I’m going to create some cliches about deliverance from sin & living holy! Will they catch on like wildfire?? Probably not…

People ignore the parts of the Bible that talk about deliverance from sin, then they cling to the parts of the Bible where God promised material prosperity to His Old Covenant ppl, even though that promise was NOT made to the New Covenant saints. Is that what being a Christian has been reduced to?? Getting rich, but not getting well??

False shepherds in the organized church have a lot of explaining to do, because they are not being healed either. They spread their sickness across the congregation by committing adultery, watching porno, financially soliciting the poor, lording it over the sheep, stealing, teaching doctrines of demons & false traditions, binding heavy requirements on men’s shoulders, making disciples that are twice the sons of hell as themselves, & doing everything else that Jesus forbid in Matthew 23. Peter wrote about these false shepherds in 2 Peter 2: ” 17 These people are as useless as dried-up springs or as mist blown away by the wind. They are doomed to blackest darkness. 18 They brag about themselves with empty, foolish boasting. With an appeal to twisted sexual desires, THEY LURE BACK INTO SIN THOSE WHO HAVE BARELY ESCAPED FROM A LIFESTYLE OF DECEPTION. 19 They promise freedom, but they themselves are slaves of sin and corruption. For you are a slave to whatever controls you. 20 And when people escape from the wickedness of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and then get tangled up and enslaved by sin again, they are worse off than before. 21 It would be better if they had never known the way to righteousness than to know it and then reject the command they were given to live a holy life. 22 They prove the truth of this proverb: “A dog returns to its vomit.” And another says, “A washed pig returns to the mud.” Godly elders are supposed to train up the saints in righteousness…not lead them back to their vomit. It’s almost like ppl are being saved out of the world by Jesus, only for some false shepherd to lead them right back into the world.

These false shepherds are exact opposite of God’s standard for elders in Titus 1:6-9, yet ppl trust them with their soul. How can they teach anyone how to live holy, when they themselves are unholy? How can someone who is unclean teach others how to be clean??? Romans 2:21-24 – “Well then, if you teach others, why don’t you teach yourself? You tell others not to steal, but do you steal? You say it is wrong to commit adultery, but do you commit adultery? You condemn idolatry, but do you use items stolen from pagan temples? You are so proud of knowing the law, but you dishonor God by breaking it. No wonder the Scriptures say, “The Gentiles blaspheme the name of God because of you.” & in another place it says “Many will follow their evil teaching & shameful immorality. And BECAUSE OF THESE TEACHERS, THE WAY OF TRUTH WILL BE SLANDERED.” (2 Pet 2:2)

Jesus said that He came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance. Those who are well do not need a doctor, but those who are sick. But no one who comes to Christ for healing/salvation from sin STAYS sick. The Gospels show that when ppl sought Jesus for healing, they were made every whit WHOLE, they were HEALED. The ppl that Peter shared the Gospel with in Acts 2 didn’t stay the same, they experienced a CONVERSION/CHANGE of heart. Their fellowship was truly unleavened (pure & healthy). This is the way that the Body of Christ should be. So how do we deal with those who are sick? We share the Gospel with them, we lovingly rebuke them, and correct them…but if they are unrepentant they do not belong in fellowship with the saints. “Don’t you realize that this sin is like a little yeast that spreads through the whole batch of dough? Get rid of the old “yeast” by removing this wicked person from among you. Then you will be like a fresh batch of dough made without yeast, which is what you really are. Christ, our Passover Lamb, has been sacrificed for us. So let us celebrate the festival, not with the old bread of wickedness and evil, but with the new bread of sincerity and truth.
When I wrote to you before, I told you not to associate with people who indulge in sexual sin. But I wasn’t talking about unbelievers who indulge in sexual sin, or are greedy, or cheat people, or worship idols. You would have to leave this world to avoid people like that. I meant that you are not to associate with anyone who claims to be a believer yet indulges in sexual sin, or is greedy, or worships idols, or is abusive, or is a drunkard, or cheats people. Don’t even eat with such people. It isn’t my responsibility to judge outsiders, but it certainly is your responsibility to judge those inside the church who are sinning. God will judge those on the outside; but as the Scriptures say, “You must remove the evil person from among you.” (1 Cor 5:6-13)

Apparently, Paul didn’t view the Body of Christ as a hospital full of sick ppl. He viewed us as a fresh batch of dough made without yeast (unleavened bread). The Body of Christ should be an assembly of saints who are living in the experience of healing from sin…not dwelling in sickness. The nature of sin is that it spreads…it is unwise to let strangers in the sanctuary, or tolerate ppl who call themselves Believers that are living in sin. Their sins will spread like a plague among those who have just escaped from the pollutions of the world. They will lay stumbling blocks before those who are striving to walk upright in the Spirit. Jesus said “But if you cause one of these little ones who trusts in me to fall into sin, it would be better for you to have a large millstone tied around your neck and be drowned in the depths of the sea.” (Matthew 18:6)

I truly believe that the organized church operates much like modern-day hospitals that practice ‘conventional’ medicine. They talk about deliverance, freedom, & healing, but they’re not really interested in ppl being set free from sin, because that’s not in their best interest. If ppl begin abiding in Christ’s Word, they will become HIS disciples, & then they will KNOW THE TRUTH, & the Truth WILL SET THEM FREE. The organized church wants ppl to be disciples of their organizations & false shepherds. They want ppl to abide in their word & false traditions. The organized church want ppl to stay bound in sin, so that they will continue seeking “a word from the Lord” thru the false shepherds who themselves are bound in sin. The more repeat patients the organized church has, the more ppl there are in the pews, putting their money in the collection plate to fund salaries & more buildings to house MORE repeat patients. & the vicious cycle continues…

The Pharisees operated the same way in the Gospels. They burdened ppl who were already in sin, by laying false traditions and man-made teachings on their shoulders. This kept the ppl bound in sin, so they had to keep coming to the Jewish Temple to buy expensive animal sacrifices which were offered up for their sins & ceremonial cleansing. These expensive sacrifices NEVER made them CLEAN/HEALED. It only put money in the pockets of those who sold the animal sacrifices, & the Pharisees who ran the Temple. Jesus messed up the Pharisee’s cash flow & corrupt religious system, because He taught the TRUE WORD of GOD with authority from the Father & told ppl to FOLLOW HIM. As ppl began following Christ, they were set free, & the Pharisees began to lose control of the ppl.

Today, I see the Bride of Christ waking up & beginning to follow her True Shepherd–Jesus Christ. She is leaving the false shepherds who tried to make merchandise of Her & burden her with man-made rules, & she is rejoicing in her blood-bought freedom & the healing hand of the Master’s touch. I believe that this passage is prophetic of the Church in this hour: “Woman, you are loosed from your infirmity! & He laid His hands on her, & immediately she was made straight, and glorified God.” (Luke 13:12-13). God is loosing us from our infirmities & making our crooked places straight. We are leaving the way that seems right to man, and following the way of Christ. Since the false shepherds did not have a heart to strengthen the weak, heal the sick, bind up the broken, bring back what was driven away, nor seek what was lost…God Himself is delivering His flock from all the places where they were scattered on a cloudy and dark day. He is breaking the bands of Babylon’s yoke from the necks of His sheep and delivering them from the hand of those who enslaved them. Modern-day John the Baptists see the Bride of Christ awakening & preparing to receive her Bridegroom, & rejoice: “He who has the bride is the bridegroom; but the friend of the bridegroom, who stands and hears him, rejoices greatly because of the bridegroom’s voice. Therefore this joy of mine is fulfilled. He must increase, but I must decrease.” (John 3:29-30) But the modern-day Pharisees are angry, embittered, & threatened: “The Pharisees therefore said among themselves, “You see that you are accomplishing nothing. Look, the world has gone after Him!” (John 12:19)

The Pharisee’s livelihood depended on sick, repeat patients…& so does the organized church. I don’t think this will change because of what I see in Revelations 17-18. Nor am I interested in trying to reform a Babylonian Harlot that is hell-bent on sleeping with every Tom, Dick, & Harry, & silencing anyone who speaks against her abominations. In Revelations 18, God said to come out of Babylon…He didn’t say to reform her. If you’re in a Babylonian ‘church’ where ppl are sick & folks aren’t being healed from sin, get out of there & follow Jesus. Fellowship with like-minded Christians who are being healed & set free from sin. You will know them by their good fruit (love). Beware of folks who say that “the church is a hospital” but they’re not getting well or being made whole. Paul warned us about these impostors in 2 Timothy 3:1-9.

-In Christ


Calvinist Confusion~ Twisting the Word of God


When Satan sets out to entrap people’s minds and souls, he uses cleverly designed lies to pull the wool over people’s eyes……….the same devices he has used so effectively from the very beginning there in the garden. However,  God had made it very clear to the first couple what He expected them to do. From the beginning, God gave man a CHOICE. Very simply, He told them to obey Him, and gave them a choice, to either obey, or not. According to Calvinist doctrine, God “set the couple up deliberately” so that they would sin. Rather than to have created them to have a choice to serve Him willingly, Calvinists believe God made people into robot like creatures, like puppets, with God pulling their strings.

I have seen the destructive outcome in Christians lives from exposing themselves consistently over a period of time to Calvinist teachings and doctrines. One of the horrors of Calvinism taking root in a person’s life, is that it keeps them in bondage, never really getting victory over the flesh, never reaching maturity in their Christian walk. Why is this?Because they misrepresent the sovereignty of God, and teach that man can’t exercise his own will to choose not to sin. So, then man tends to remain in his sinful state, helplessly waiting for God to “sanctify” him….which never seems to happen.  This man has believed the lie, and will live and die in his sins, because God gave him a choice to repent and turn from sin, and the power to lay hold of the cross and put to death the deeds of the flesh, but he never did. Again, this man has believed the lie of Satan and Satan’s weapon, Calvinism. 

This is an over simplification of the hideous tangle the Calvinists dogmatically try to instill in people’s minds, and corrupt their converts into being twice the son’s of confusion that they are. But there are many, many other snares and dangers that Christians need to study so they may escape the danger and snare of this doctrine of demons. 


Spiritual Abuse-What are the Signs You may be in an Abusive Church?

Who gave these churches the right to change the way God set up the church?  Back then, as a newbie, I tried to make excuses, such as, “Well, they’re doing some things right”…and, “these are different times we’re living in now, and after all it looks like they do love the LORD”.

When I first came out of the spiritually abusive church, I felt I must surely be the only one in the world that had ever experienced such abuse and betrayal in the “house of God”.  Some day soon, I hope to get around to posting about what happened there in the “full, unedited version”. But not just yet, …at this time I just feel led to tell a few incidents that happened during that time period, as a new believer, I realize I was being groomed to be conformed…not into the image of the Beloved, Jesus Christ, but being groomed to be conformed into a counterfeit, an apostate, a Pharisee.

There’s a lot to tell from the very beginning that should have been warning signals. Yes, I do believe very early on the Holy Spirit was showing me in the Word,…….that the church I was involved in at that time, was controlling, biblically “off”, legalistic,  and trying to get me to conform to their system, their “ways” of doing church, and it was a controlling man made system full of man made doctrines and traditions of men that really had little to do with the pure worship of God.

I had gone into this church as a new spirit-filled believer, wanting to serve Jesus with all my heart and ability. I was studying the Word of God, and was like a sponge to learn more.  I started wondering why this church didn’t bear any resemblance to the early church in the bible in the book of Acts. 

As you can see, those are the excuses a novice might come up with who has little or no experience in how things work in the apostate, organized church system. Jesus doesn’t change by the whims and times of man, He, is the same, yesterday, today and forever. That’s one of the awesome things to admire, thank and love Jesus for, He’s not capricious.

Anyway, after the initial love bombing was over at this small church I had joined, the grooming and subtle controlling began. You know it’s amazing….no matter how small the church, there seems to be a set of unspoken “rules” that as if by magic, become operable. You can count on it……

With me, I was in this to be real, to love and serve the LORD, but I had a lot to learn about the way the “church did church” and expected its members to “do church”.  Meanwhile, I was getting little memo’s in my study time in the bible from the Holy Spirit, concerning these issues in the church. For example, this one…



12As many as desire to make a fair shew in the flesh, they constrain you to be circumcised; only lest they should suffer persecution for the cross of Christ. 13For neither they themselves who are circumcised keep the law; but desire to have you circumcised, that they may glory in your flesh. 14But God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world. 15For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature. 16And as many as walk according to this rule, peace be on them, and mercy, and upon the Israel of God.”Galatians 6



Now, see, it’s pretty plain- in the context of what the Spirit was showing me, that even modern-day churches don’t demand their congregants to get physically circumcised, but they do try to bring them  back under the law, and into the bondage and conformity to legalism. They want you to conform to their pattern, so “they can GLORY IN YOUR FLESH”. So, that in your outward appearance, you’ll look and act JUST LIKE THEM! The problem here is that it’s all superficial, like Jesus accused the Pharisees, of looking like whitened sepulchres, only inside they were full of dead mens bones.

Something else the Holy Spirit was showing me in the Word of God about that time was this, that went along the same lines and was confirming the other scripture………..



14But their minds were blinded: for until this day remains the same veil not taken away in the reading of the old covenant; which veil is done away in Christ.

15But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the veil is upon their hearts.

16Nevertheless when one shall turn to the Lord, the veil shall be taken away.

17Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.

18But we all, with unveiled face beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord. 2nd Corinthians 3.



Legalism! Being practiced in the household of God! And the LORD was trying to show me in His Word that this was not His way…that I was free in Him and  showing me not to allow myself to be brought under the bondage of their system. You see, if “your veil is taken away”, you be able to see clearly, and have the “eyes to see, and ears to hear” that Jesus has provided for those who love and obey Him and His Word.

You would be surprised how many churches are doing this in one form or another, and believe me, they will not take kindly to a new member who comes in expecting to remain uncontaminated by their system and doctrines.

If you’ve come to this page, I’m assuming that you may be in a church situation that doesn’t seem right, and in fact may be an abusive church. You see, what I’ve described IS spiritual abuse, but inevitably, if a new member doesn’t conform, it’s not going to be a matter of if, but when, the spiritual abuse becomes very up front and personal, and directed toward you. That’s when decisions have to be made…and you either succumb to the manipulation and fear, or…you leave.

I pray for each and every person who comes here with such a burden on your heart, that you will be set free and healed from all legalistic, man-made bondages. Jesus loves you and wants you to be FREE to love and serve Him in the Spirit, free of the shackles of Nicolaitanism.

As I said before, when I came out of the apostate church I felt so alone, and like there was no one in the world to talk to that understood. Just know that here, you will find brothers and sisters that care, and you CAN talk to and share your experiences, and you will not be ostracized, or condemned. Talking, sharing, and praying together about the  spiritual abuse we’ve suffered is very cathartic and healing, and this is basically what this blog is all about. 

May Jesus bless you~


You Can’t “Out Sin” the Grace of God according to Calvinist Charles Stanley


Dan Corner Charles Stanley Debate on Calvinism:


A man who’d been a friend of mine before I was saved,  recently died. I was deeply grieved when I heard this news, as I wasn’t sure whether this man was saved or not. Although he did many good deeds during his life, he always debated with me about coming to Jesus in repentance. He would say t hings like… he’d backslide if he came to Jesus,  because he had an anger problem and would just as soon bust people in the head if they crossed him and did something bad that he didn’t like.(And he had that reputation….. that one didn’t want to mess with Johnnie)!

Oh, there were other tell-tale things that caused me concern about his salvation. One was that his wife was a Catholic, and he’d promised her father when they got married that he’d always take her to Catholic church. He kept that word even though he didn’t like the Catholic doctrine and rituals. He’d always say he’d left $20 in the plate, as if that made everything OK with Jesus.And too, he didn’t seem to recognize or understand that it was more important, in fact crucial, to obey God, instead of one’s father in law.

One of his famous lines was that “he was karma”, meaning that he would reap revenge on anyone, that in his opinion was doing something bad to mistreat someone else. Not realizing that it’s God’s job to do that, not his or ours. I also knew that he had a drinking problem that had become chronic and highly addictive which ended up controlling his life and health. I’m pretty sure that was a contributing factor in his early death.

Finally, and this is the point I’m getting to….one of his objections to my pleading and witnessing to him about coming to Jesus in repentance was the infamous cliché, “once saved always saved”, as if that was the end of the matter and settled his account with God. You see, he and I both knew that he’d had the baptism of the Holy Spirit as a teen, and God had indeed worked mightily in his life. But there it was…that OSAS heresy that in his mind and in the minds of many others, that make sin an option and repentance an option.

Here is an excellent resource I came across that spells out the false doctrine of Calvinism in a clear and concise way. I hope it will minister to you as you seek to bring the truth to others about “eternal security” and the outlandish doctrine once saved always saved. 

Jesus bless you!




Apostate Church~”Come Out of Her My People”! Jesus Serious Warning!


You may think the following is a little too frivolous to be taken seriously by many Christians, but listen~ many in today’s mainstream organized churches are doing what amounts to the same thing. Jesus was serious when he warned, “Come out of her My people, and do not partake of her sins-or her plagues”. What was he talking about?

He was talking about the organized mainstream church many are being deceived by!

Does this look like the holiness and obedience Jesus wants us to emulate? Loving and obeying him and his commandments? Or this hybrid, counterfeit?


By the way, “coming out of her my people, does not mean we should go into faux Internet Discernment Ministries, as a substitute! Do not settle for anything less than the pure gospel of Jesus Christ. See our post Mystery Meat Internet Ministries here:









Warning to the Lukewarm Church!

Some folks may find this a little extreme…

Well, maybe it is, but so was Jesus warning to the churches in the Book of Revelation. Especially the church of Laodicia!

Revelation 3:13-19

King James Version (KJV)

14And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;

15I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.

16So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.

17Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:

18I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.

19As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.

So You Left an Abusive Church~Now What?

Have you recently left “church”, that is to say, the building, and the system? Maybe you felt the Holy Spirit was showing you things just weren’t right. You may have noticed the church you’d belonged to didn’t bear any resemblance to the early church that Jesus started in the book of Acts.

Or, possibly you were being spiritually abused in some way by either the pastor, or one of more of the church members. For whatever reason, you’re out….so, now that you’re out….now what?

My brother or sister, you may have a vague sense of relief, or possibly any number of emotions you never realized you’d have to deal with. Rest assured, you are not alone.

Many of us have gone through the entire gamut of mentally anguishing doubts and feelings, ranging from anger, guilt, fear, loneliness and a feeling of isolation. Here is where the going gets serious. Now that you’re out, there is the “world” surrounding you on every side. At this point, it’s crucial to take some time reorienting yourself to your newly “unchurched” circumstances.

Please realize, that although you may “feel” alone, Christ is still with you. He did say he’d never leave or forsake you. And although you may have left the church, hopefully, you haven’t left him as well. That would be the worse mistake one could possibly make.

In any case, this is the juncture in your life where you will need to lean on him heavily for support and guidance. Bear in mind that Jesus is your Hope and Anchor. He will see you through this spiritual crisis if you will allow him to.

Personally, in my own wilderness journey, and isolation, I found it extremely important to resist the temptation to turn “outward” for support to fill that spiritual void. There is just something about humans, that like nature, abhor  a void. But, the LAST thing one would need to do is turn back to Egypt, and the bondage that Jesus set you free from.

So, there is a need for spiritual discipline at this time….a need to stay in regular daily study of the scriptures, and in prayer and communication with Jesus. Just being “out” of church doesn’t relief us of the need for him any less. In fact, in the time of spiritual crisis, this is the time when we need him the most.

God bless all of you who may be in a stage of transition right now…however, you may very well find that this “testing” time is very rewarding and strengthening once on the other side. Please……..give yourself, (and Jesus) time. Time to seek him for direction and guidance. One of the WORST possible things you may be tempted to do is to rush to find another fellowship soon after leaving one. This can result in the frying pan- fire syndrome….so, please don’t!

And…another word of warning…Satan has set up many traps for unchurched believers. The internet is one of them. Please don’t fall for what I call, “Mystery Meat” Internet Ministries, that are set up to have an illusion of “church” complete with a teacher, etc. One of the ways, (not the only one by any means) is the hirelings ever present PayPal Acct to accept your donations. Bear in mind that maybe this “teacher” has an ulterior motive…(like money, for example). Maybe he needs to get out of his PJ’s, leave his laptop, and get a real job, ya think?

Well, what I’m trying to say, is these so-called “internet” ministries may look like a viable option to a real fellowship of brethren, but frankly, it’s not. Think “early church”, and pray about following that example. The LORD may simply lead you to eventually gather with a few like minded believers in one another’s homes for prayer, bible study, and breaking bread together. That was the model of the church that Jesus set up in the book of Acts, and it shook the world with it’s power. “For where there are two or more gathered together in His Name, there He will be also”. It’s a PROMISE.




Mystery Meat Internet “Discernment” Ministries

Preaching and teaching is a calling, NOT A BUSINESS. Beware of those who try to make it a business, and therefore, effectively pilfer your bank account and possibly your soul, making merchandise of you.



Beware of these guys! So-called “Discernment Ministries” who’ve sprouted up all over the place since the advent of the Internet. The first thing to ask yourself when drawn into one of these blogs or sites, is how do you know this person has discernment? That’s pretty bottom-line, right?I mean, just because they say they have discernment doesn’t make it truth does it? Who exactly has made them the dispensers of God’s Word and Truth? The way it looks, if you think about it, THEY DID. Isn’t that what they’re saying when they advertise their blog, or website?

Look, I’m not saying that all online ministry sites are evil, or that they are perverting the Word of God, but think about it honestly….there is a great possibility that they just might be.What do you actually know about these types of “ministries”, since you can’t look them in the eye, face to face, to be able to examine the spiritual fruits in their lives? Would you make a serious business deal with a stranger, that you couldn’t meet and see eye to eye with the person? Of course not. Folks, where it comes to our spiritual walk down the Christian road, the most important issue in our entire lives, it’s of vital importance to know who and what we are dealing with. The choices we make in this will determine our complete life’s destiny.

If these, what I call Mystery Meat “discernment ministries” or “Watchmen” so-called, are dishing out material based on their view of doctrine, then we’d better be doubly cautious. We’re admonished by scripture time and time again, and by the Lord Jesus Christ’s own words to beware of false doctrine, false teachers, wolves in sheep’s clothing, deception, merchandisers of the Word of God, thinking godliness is gain. We need to be sure that what we are hearing and taking into our spirits lines up with the Word of God, as led by the Holy Spirit.

And beware of that PayPal acct,  and donations page on their sites. This could be a sign they have a vested interest in gathering disciples unto themselves. Jesus warned that “The love of money is the root of ALL EVIL”. Why? Simply because money has the potential to have a corrupting influence in a person’s life.

I was checking out some of these sites on the Internet, and came across a site warning about such discernment ministries and heresy hunters. This was one that I felt was right on in line with scriptural warning to avoid them: What it had to say is what has been bugging me for a long time now. Christians have been watching the movie instead of reading the BOOK! 

Study the Word of God, and pray over it, asking the Holy Spirit, your teacher to teach you from scripture.Like the Bereans!

Acts 17:11

In that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.

These things may be of God, but the word may contain leaven. There was a big problem with false doctrine at the church at Corinth and the first chapters of Corinthians deal with it. The church at Berea on the other hand, only received truth and searched it out. It did not matter if it came from Paul or Peter, or if someone was healed prior to the word, or if the fellowship was in love, THEY SEARCHED and so must you search as well, daily whether those things are so in scripture.

This word I am speaking to you may be 99% pure unadulterated word that produces the life of The Anointed One – Jesus, and 1% of that which is tainted by my soulish, natural man. We must discern and receive that which relates to Him only. Sometimes you may have to hear “99%” of that which pertains to the soul and God will change you with the “1%”, like the pearl of great price, you searched it out and rejected all but that one pearl. Jesus is that Pearl; He Who is the Word of God.

Some good sheep chow to chew on!