Kenneth Hagins Forgotten Rebuke to the Prosperity Gang

Kenneth Hagin in South Africa, teaching on the gifts and callings of the Spirit.
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Kenneth Hagins Forgotten Rebuke

by J. Lee Grady,

Charisma magazine

 

“Charismatic Bible teacher Kenneth Hagin Sr. is considered the father of the so-called prosperity gospel. The folksy, self-trained “Dad Hagin” started a grass-roots movement in Oklahoma that produced a Bible college and a crop of famous preachers including Kenneth Copeland, Jerry Savelle, Charles Capps, Jesse DuPlantis, Creflo Dollar and dozens of others—all of whom teach that Christians who give generously should expect financial rewards on this side of heaven.

Hagin taught that God was not glorified by poverty and that preachers do not have to be poor. But before he died in 2003 and left his Rhema Bible Training Center in the hands of his son, Kenneth Hagin Jr., he summoned many of his colleagues to Tulsa to rebuke them for distorting his message. He was not happy that some of his followers were manipulating the Bible to support what he viewed as greed and selfish indulgence.

Those who were close to Hagin Sr. say he was passionate about correcting these abuses before he died. In fact, he wrote a brutally honest book to address his concerns. The Midas Touch was published in 2000, a year after the infamous Tulsa meeting.

Many Word-Faith ministers ignored the book. But in light of the recent controversy over prosperity doctrines, it might be a good idea to dust it off and read it again.

Here are a few of the points Hagin made in The Midas Touch:

1. Financial prosperity is not a sign of God’s blessing. Hagin wrote: “If wealth alone were a sign of spirituality, then drug traffickers and crime bosses would be spiritual giants. Material wealth can be connected to the blessings of God or it can be totally disconnected from the blessings of God.”

2. People should never give in order to get. Hagin was critical of those who “try to make the offering plate some kind of heavenly vending machine.” He denounced those who link giving to getting, especially those who give cars to get new cars or who give suits to get new suits. He wrote: “There is no spiritual formula to sow a Ford and reap a Mercedes.”

3. It is not biblical to “name your seed” in an offering. Hagin was horrified by this practice, which was popularized in faith conferences during the 1980s. Faith preachers sometimes tell donors that when they give in an offering they should claim a specific benefit to get a blessing in return. Hagin rejected this idea and said that focusing on what you are going to receive “corrupts the very attitude of our giving nature.”

4. The “hundredfold return” is not a biblical concept. Hagin did the math and figured out that if this bizarre notion were true, “we would have Christians walking around with not billions or trillions of dollars, but quadrillions of dollars!” He rejected the popular teaching that a believer should claim a specific monetary payback rate.

5. Preachers who claim to have a “debt-breaking” anointing should not be trusted. Hagin was perplexed by ministers who promise “supernatural debt cancellation” to those who give in certain offerings. He wrote in The Midas Touch: “There is not one bit of Scripture I know about that validates such a practice. I’m afraid it is simply a scheme to raise money for the preacher, and ultimately it can turn out to be dangerous and destructive for all involved.”

(Many evangelists who appear on Christian television today use this bogus claim. Usually they insist that the miraculous debt cancellation will occur only if a person “gives right now,” as if the anointing for this miracle suddenly evaporates after the prime time viewing hour. This manipulative claim is more akin to witchcraft than Christian belief.)

Hagin condemned other harebrained gimmicks designed to trick audiences into emptying their wallets. He was especially incensed when a preacher told his radio listeners that he would take their prayer requests to Jesus’ empty tomb in Jerusalem and pray over them there—if donors included a special love gift. “What that radio preacher really wanted was more people to send in offerings,” Hagin wrote.

Thanks to the recent resurgence in bizarre donation schemes promoted by American charismatics, the prosperity gospel is back under the nation’s microscope. It’s time to revisit Hagin’s concerns and find a biblical balance.

Hagin told his followers: “Overemphasizing or adding to what the Bible actually teaches invariably does more harm than good.” If the man who pioneered the modern concept of biblical prosperity blew the whistle on his own movement, wouldn’t it make sense for us to listen to his admonition?
 

Pornography Use is Adultery

Pornography. Adultery. Strip Clubs. Casual Sex. Prostitution. Masturbation. Only problems for a few right? Wrong. Pornography has become an addiction for many people. But it is a subject that is hardly ever talked about due to the guilt and shame that is often involved. And if you think it only effects ‘certain’ types of people, think again. No one is immune from the the temptation to look at pornography. Many well respected members of society are living in secret shame because of their addiction (women as well as men). And if you are a Christian, please don’t think you are somehow immune, you are not. Pornography effects all types of people. There are many Christians, religious people, non-religious people, men and women who are trapped in a secret prison of sexual sin. Video courtesy of http://www.settingcaptivesfree.com 

Talk to any Christian wife who’s become aware of her husband’s bondage to porn, and you will encounter a woman who is cut to the core knowing that when she is intimate with her husband, there are “unseen” others in the marriage bed with them. A husband’s porn addiction is spiritually abusive to his wife, no two ways about it! 

Husbands may not realize just how emotionally and spiritually damaging this is to the bond between the two of them. You see, fantasizing during sexual intimacy with your wife is the same as adultery! Husbands may not realize that this action breaks the intimate bond between the two of them.  It’s adultery, and adultery is a deal breaker.

Christian men…if you are laboring under the bondage of being addicted to pornography, I urge you to take steps immediately to get set free. However, you must want to be free. Cry out to the LORD JESUS for the “want to” …if need be. If men even half way realized how damaging porn is to their spiritual lives…as well as their marriages, they would RUN to the LORD for deliverance! Using porn will not only ruin your relationship with your wife, but it will destroy your relationship with the LORD as well as stunt spiritual growth, and if that’s not plain enough to get your attention, porn is not worth going to hell over! I do believe porn use in a Christian marriage would be a scriptural cause for divorce on the grounds of adultery.

A note to wives: If you are withholding sex from your husband on a continual basis, you are putting a spiritual stumbling block in his life that would cause him to be sexually frustrated and lead to temptation to sin. This is so wrong! Discuss this issue with your husband and get help if need be. I wonder why in the world you got married if you didn’t intend to fulfill your sexual end of the marriage!

I notice many frustrated and unhappy Christian men coming to this blog seeking answers about their wives not liking sex. Men, you need to talk to your wives about this, as it’s a very serious matter. I understand your frustration, and have to seriously wonder if it’s not a cause for divorce. 

For a wife to force a husband into a celibate role in a Christian marriage? Just how “Christian” can that be? Surely no true loving Christian woman would put her husband into such a compromised situation by withholding sex from him. If you are not having a sexual relationship with your wife due to her withholding sex…Christian man….you don’t have a marriage, you have an “arrangement”.

 

http://www.charismamag.com/blogs/fire-in-my-bones/15118-pull-the-plug-on-porn

If you or someone you love is struggling with a porn addiction, take these steps to freedom.

At a men’s conference I sponsored last weekend in Philadelphia, some of my friends took the stage and got gut-level honest about their temptations. I was so proud of their courage. Shay, a young father from Ohio, admitted that he was exposed to hard-core pornography when he was only five years old. He began modeling what he saw in X-rated videos when he was just six.

Another guy from Pennsylvania told the men in the audience that he began watching porn when he was a preteen—and this led him to sex with dozens of girls in high school. Until recently this man still battled the shame of his porn habit even though he was a lay leader in his church.

“It’s not enough to whisper a quiet prayer under your breath. To break free from a life-controlling habit as powerful as porn, you must talk to someone else. And you should do it sooner, not later.”

Jason, a youth pastor in northwestern Pennsylvania, preached to the men on Friday night about how to reclaim purity in our sex-saturated culture. Like so many of the guys in our conference, Jason had been exposed to porn at a young age. His lust could not be satisfied by masturbation or kinkier videos, so his addiction drove him to seek out multiple girls for instant gratification. That’s where porn leads.

Thankfully all these guys eventually found Christ and discovered the grace to escape the porn trap. They are happily married today, and they’ve been freed from the shame of past failures. But I meet many Christian men who are not so fortunate. A huge percentage of men in church have given up trying to resist temptation.

If you are one of those men (or women) who wears a fake smile when you go to church, pretending to be an “overcomer” when you really are a prisoner of lust, then please consider taking these radical steps. (And if you know someone who is battling this monster, please consider forwarding this message to him or her.)

1. Spill your guts. The first step toward repentance is honesty, and it must be brutal. To repent means to turn 180 degrees, so this decision cannot be half-hearted. It’s not enough to whisper a quiet prayer under your breath. To break free from a life-controlling habit as powerful as porn, you must talk to someone else. And you should do it sooner, not later.

James 5:16 says, “Confess your sins to one another, and pray for one another so that you may be healed” (NASB). I have prayed with many guys about their porn addictions, and they have testified that the power of their sin broke the moment they admitted it. Sit down with someone (preferably a more mature Christian you know and trust) and put all your cards on the table. If you humble yourself, God will give you grace to change.

2. Get ruthless. Sin is deceitful. It loves to make up excuses such as, “No one knows about your habit, so it’s not hurting anyone,” “I deserve this little treat” or “I can play with fire and not get burned.” Don’t believe the lies. Esau sold his birthright for a bowl of soup, and many men today forfeit their relationship with God by compromising with porn.

You can’t break free from sexual sin by slowly backing away from it or taming it like a pet. The Bible tells us to “flee” from immorality (2 Tim. 2:22). You must lay the axe to the root of your problem. Cut off all access to porn. Say goodbye and slam the door in its face. And if you can’t stop looking at it on your phone or computer, get rid of your phone and computer.

3. Keep no secrets. Guys addicted to porn struggle with constant shame. They can’t enjoy prayer or worship because they feel condemned. They can’t share their faith with others because they feel like hypocrites. And many Christian men are so full of guilt they turn to alcohol or drugs to numb their pain.

It’s not enough to confess your sin to a brother once. You must stay in relationship with people who love you enough to confront you. Find one or two accountability partners and make a covenant with them to live transparently. And don’t wait until you fall to call for counsel. Contact them whenever you feel tempted. Send up a flare and ask for help before it’s too late.

4. Refocus your life on others. Lust is ultimately about self-gratification. When a young man gets hooked on porn, he can’t grow up emotionally. This is why some adult men in their 50s and 60s act like 13-year-olds when it comes to sex. They are stuck in perpetual puberty.

You will never break free from the bondage of sexual sin simply by gritting your teeth and trying to forget the images you saw in magazines or videos. You must totally redirect your energies toward serving others: your spouse, your children, your church and the needy people around you. Throw yourself into selfless ministry and starve your illegal urges.

5. Stay filled with the Spirit. None of these previous steps are possible without the Holy Spirit, who is our promised Helper (see John 14:16). Self-help is not the answer. Ask the Spirit to fill your life with His refining fire. He will go to the root of your unholy desires, burn up your lust and give you supernatural ability to resist temptation.

J. LEE GRADY is contributing editor of Charisma. You can follow him on Twitter at·leegrady. His most recent book is·10 Lies Men Believe·(Charisma House), is a helpful resource for men’s small group Bible studies.

I recently found a very powerful article online taken from the biblical story of Samson and the seductress Delilah. I URGE those of you who are in bondage to porn, and being troubled and tormented by the addiction. Christian men must overcome this stronghold or risk loosing it all. There are many stories coming out of Christian homes and ministries about this spiritual adultery literally destroying homes and marriages. I am beginning to wonder if this spirit is not behind so many sexual scandals in the church and even involving pastors.
http://www.opentheword.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1287:the-spirit-of-delilah&catid=13:spiritual-warfare&Itemid=91

I’ve watched enough of these to know they are very real, although our natural minds don’t want to accept or believe it.
These demons speak freely, until …..they start being cast out and then they begin “tearing the body”,,,(acting out) just like it says when Jesus cast them out. I once watched a preacher casting demons out of a man, and heard a voice coming out of him that screamed, “This is MY TEMPLE” The man ended up let the demons right back in again by his continuing in with this and other sins.


 

Prophecy: Judgment is Coming Upon This Wicked and Perverse Generation!

TURN OFF YOUR IDOL!!

Friends, you can’t be a friend of the world, and love the things of the world and still be a friend of God. On the contrary, if you do these things, and indulge yourself in various pleasures, and dabble in the things of the world, which the LORD has expressly condemned, then you will become an enemy of the Cross. Think not that the Lord will overlook these things which are an abomination to Him! If people refuse to judge themselves, God most certainly can and will!

http://kingjbible.com/deuteronomy/29.htm

Neither with you only do I make this covenant and this oath; 15But with him that standeth here with us this day before the LORD our God, and also with him that is not here with us this day: 16(For ye know how we have dwelt in the land of Egypt; and how we came through the nations which ye passed by; 17And ye have seen their abominations, and their idols, wood and stone, silver and gold, which were among them:) 18Lest there should be among you man, or woman, or family, or tribe, whose heart turneth away this day from the LORD our God, to go and serve the gods of these nations; lest there should be among you a root that beareth gall and wormwood; 19And it come to pass, when he heareth the words of this curse, that he bless himself in his heart, saying, I shall have peace, though I walk in the imagination of mine heart, to add drunkenness to thirst: 20The LORD will not spare him, but then the anger of the LORD and his jealousy shall smoke against that man, and all the curses that are written in this book shall lie upon him, and the LORD shall blot out his name from under heaven. 21And the LORD shall separate him unto evil out of all the tribes of Israel, according to all the curses of the covenant that are written in this book of the law:

 
Prophecy:

Brother Steven Crowder

Seeing Through The Eyes Of A Child

“On the 26th day of February in the year 2001, the Lord spoke to me and said, “Write down what I speak to you!The first of three judgments is soon to be upon this country.”

“For weeks I have been stirring your spirit and showing you things that you must tell My people.I’ve shown you My anger and my anguish over their deeds and their lives, and I’ve caused you to feel these very things in your own heart, have I not?”

And I said, “Yes, Lord.With all of my heart I know this.”

And the Lord said to me, “You must record what I’ve shown you and what I will show you, and you must share it amongst the people, even if it brings forth unbelief and dissension, and even persecution from those who call themselves your brethren”

And I said, “Lord, help me to bear this burden, for the weight of it is enormous.How great and how terrible this message is, and how will it be received?”

And the Lord said to me, “Do not concern yourself how it is received by those hearing it—only be faithful and deliver all of the words that I speak to you, and do not hold back anything I tell you—this is very important, and this you must do.”

“The first of three judgments is soon to be upon this country.With each judgment I will reveal people’s hearts and their motives, and although many will cry out to Me, few will actually repent and turn to me with all of their heart.Those who do repent will know in their hearts that it took judgment in order to bring them to repentance, this being due to the stubbornness of their hearts.”

“A strong blow will occur in the economic sector in this country, and it will cause a deterioration that will progress slowly but steadily, causing the abandonment of grandiose plans and ideas.Economic woes will pave the way to great sorrow and suffering, and as things escalate and grow worse, there will be those who will say, ‘Behold, the Great Depression has returned!What has become of our prosperity?’ Depression and sorrow are one and the same—behold, the time of sorrows that has come upon your nation.”

“I prospered the people of this country with great abundance, but what did they do with their wealth?They built monuments unto themselves, they grew fat and slothful, and they forgot the poor, and their trust increasingly grew upon their wealth, and they forgot about Me, says the Lord!They deceived themselves into thinking that it was their own righteousness that brought forth this wealth, not knowing that the seeds of their prosperity had long before been planted by their forefathers.Is it not true that first comes the planting of the seed, followed many years later by an abundance of fruit?In this people’s pride and arrogance, they have deceived themselves, and in a short time I shall strike them and take away their sustenance and all they have come to trust in, for I am the Lord, and vengeance is Mine!And when the infrastructure of this country begins to crumble, violence and turmoil will become the norm, and after a time the people will become used to it and will accept the latest strategies that will be implemented in order to try to heal this incurable affliction.”

“There are those who built great ministries and flaunted their wealth before the eyes of many, misrepresenting Christ, while at the same time claiming to be His ministers.A grand hypocrisy this is, living in such luxury as rivals the greatest kings who have ever lived, says the Lord.And O how My people love to have it so!When the economic abundance that the people have become so accustomed to begins to fade, and the propagators of such “prosperity faith” continue their efforts to milk the flock of their dwindling riches, see then how successful their “faith” messages will be.Will the people send in their money on that day to extend the life of luxury that these deceitful hirelings require?I say to you that there will be a small percentage of those whose eyes will have been opened concerning these tricks, and they will say, ‘How foolish we were to believe these tales told by those who say they represent the Lord!Forgive us for our mistakes and heal our deception O God!’And the Lord will hear their cries in that day, and He will heal them.But, the majority; the many, will continue to put their trust in these heresies, believing that God will pay them back many fold for all that they “donate” to His cause.I say to you that such giving does not emanate from a pure heart, but is done due to selfish motives.When one gives out of love, nothing is expected in return, but see how these people charge Me to return their money many times over?If your riches are your security instead of the Lord, then they have become a snare and an idol to you.Woe be unto you!Woe be unto you!”

“Your elected officials shall scramble to fix the problems in that day, yet they will only be so many fingers in a dam which is breaking, and no amount of programs will be able to mend what’s happening.The nation whose currency says, ‘In God We Trust’ has forgotten the Lord, and the majority of its officials have become corrupted!Many of your leaders use the name of the Lord as a tool, while they secretly engage in sinful, demonic behavior, thinking that the Lord does not see.But, the Lord does see, and He does not honor those who do not honor Him, nor will He honor their programs that they will attempt to implement to no avail.No government can stand when it is divided against itself, and no one can renew the blessings of God when they’re standing arm-in-arm with the devil.”

I said, “Lord, how can we as a people be so blind, and what has become of us?How can we be spared from eternal judgment?”

And the Lord said, “People do not get corrupted in a day, but through subtle deception their eyes become clouded so that they can not see and discern between good and evil.If they are not shown the error of their ways so that they can repent of this evil, then they will die in it and then have to give account for their actions on the day of accountability when they stand before Me.”

And I said, “Lord, how did this happen?”

And the Lord said, “Much of the damage has occurred through the idol you call television.At first it was innocent, with shows that promoted morals and family values, but like everything else that man can touch, it became corrupted by man’s desires, and in time it became the holding place of every foul spirit.What used to be entertainment with cowboys and horses paved the way for policemen and violence, and with each passing season the savagery grew worse, until the people became shock-proofed and addicted to this sort of blood and violence.And then it became the norm for people to see men; who were created in the image of God, cursing and killing other men—all in the name of ‘entertainment.’And as people grew more accustomed to this type of perversion, they merely passed it off as being normal—the average, routine entertainment of the day—not realizing at all what it was doing to them.This is to be compared to a rebellious child who pushes the limit of what he can get away with, until at last the outrageous becomes the acceptable—this is how the people of this country became so corrupted, until at last they call evil good and they have lost the ability to discern good from evil.It was mainly through the entertainment industry that this door was opened, allowing all of this demonic intrusion into the lives and hearts of the people.Music and television both became so corrupted that they destroyed the moral fiber of the youth, and in time those children grew up and became the adults of the next generation—a generation empty of understanding and void of moral direction—a preoccupied generation that had lost the ability to know right from wrong.And if this wasn’t enough, then came the computer, where everything can be found, although none of it is real.As if this country wasn’t already shock-proofed, easy access to computers paved the way to even greater perversions—all in the name of man’s progress.From cursing to murder to lewd acts and perversions, televisions and computers opened the door to the demonic and caused people to adulterate themselves through what they saw—all in the form of ‘entertainment.’Children need to be entertained, and it was through the door of their ‘entertainment’ that the people of this nation were adulterated with the iniquities of the world.Children—perpetual children—children who refuse to grow up and take responsibility—this is what has become of the people of this country.”

“When My judgments come, says the Lord, who will shake themselves loose from the great deception that has covered this country like a death shroud—who is it that will repent?

As I pondered this, the Lord spoke to me again, speaking of a second judgment.He said to me, “After their riches become as dust, I shall bring forth a famine so as to make their food scarce and their delicacies no more.”

And I said, “Lord, how will this affect the country, and who will be spared this judgment?”

The Lord said, “Many have lived their lives never knowing what it is to be hungry.Many have forgotten the poor and the destitute and the hungry, choosing to turn their heads away from such ones as these, and to shut out that part of the world from their eyes.In their pride, they considered themselves better than the others because of their prosperity and their lack of want.You will see how depraved these people will become when they will consider it a blessing to receive a mere one meal a day!Where will their pride be then?”

“As the economic woes worsen, great turmoil will occur overseas, and your country will be pulled into a frightening war.Because it is a fact that ‘war’ helps to revive the economy, there will be many who will rejoice because of this, saying, ‘Behold, our prosperity is soon to return!—it is worth the sacrifice of these young men and women.’But this war will be a great trap, and many men and women will leave the homeland, never to return, as the jaws of this trap will clamp down upon them without mercy.Your country has become very proud of its great technologies, and the people of your country entertained themselves by watching their televisions, viewing the wholesale slaughter meted out in your last war.Unbeknownst to you, these ‘smart weapons’ will not be so effective this time around, and when your troops walk confidently into battle they will not be prepared for what they will encounter.The tactics of the last war have deceived your people into a false sense of security, and it will be to your horror when a seemingly weaker enemy unleashes the terror that they are holding in store for your young men and women when they enter into the prepared battle grounds.”

“Although everyone will be affected by the lack of abundant food, there will be those who will have an adequate supply, those who have been wise and who have heard the voice of the Lord and who have actually done something with what He has spoken to them.These people will be blessed in that day, and their wise planning they will become a lifeline for many people to avoid starvation.These pockets of people will be few, and they will be scattered in many places, says the Lord.It will be by My assistance that these people will be blessed, and they will take no credit unto themselves for their blessings.”

“The government will attempt to remedy the problem of feeding the masses of hungry people, and their food distribution programs will at times become violent, plagued by people who know of no other way than to break in and steal that which they desire.This will pave the way for very strict regulations and the marking of people within a godless system.Although this country has always had an abundance of food and grain to send to other countries, it will be hard-pressed to feed its own people in that soon-coming day, and the famine will only grow worse and worse, with natural disasters leading to the destruction of much-hoped-for food.A once-proud nation will be brought to its knees, and people’s health will decline to proportions unheard of for this country.Many will lose hope, and few will repent and return to Me, says the Lord.”

“There will still be ministries that will attempt to pilfer the people in that day, offering promises to them and misleading many with false signs and wonders.And there will be so many in that day who will cry long and loud to be raptured out of the world and into the Paradise of God, but to no avail.It will be said to their leaders in that day, ‘How long must we suffer this affliction?’ and ‘Children of the King shouldn’t suffer like this, should they?’And many will fall away from the faith in that day, abandoning all hope and the possibility of being removed from their suffering.And I will have mercy on My people in that day, says the Lord, upon those who will face reality and who will come to Me with their broken hearts.And they shall know in that day that I am the Lord who loves them, and that they’ve been tricked and deceived by those who fashion themselves in religious garb, yet who are not truly the Lord’s shepherds.This is the second judgment that I shall pour out upon this country”

And as I sat and pondered this, the Lord brought my attention to a group of people who were standing around and talking amongst themselves.The Lord said to me, “Behold how they talk and how this sort of speech does not sit right within your spirit.”

And I said, “Lord, why is this so, and what does it mean?”

And the Lord said, “They speak as though they were babes and little children, not knowing that from the abundance of their hearts their mouths speak.They speak as babes and children because within their hearts this is who and what they really are—a generation that has refused to grow up, a generation that has deceived themselves and in turn I have deceived them.Education and wealth have no affect on peoples’ maturity, and yet they have been deceived into thinking that this is the case.People think that because a person has this much education or because they own great possessions, or because they have great charm or a golden tongue that they are somehow above others.Men see the outside and judge accordingly, but the Lord looks upon the heart.”

At these words my heart sank within me, and I wanted to turn and weep for these people.I could not speak, nor could I eat, for my heart was so heavy within me.I began to melt like wax and my strength left me.For hours I walked around in a daze, and I felt as though I had just seen all of those around me slain in an unknown way.And as I pondered this, the Lord began to speak to me again.

“Children—perpetual children, this is how I refer to this generation.They see through the eyes of a child, for this is what they wanted, and this is what I gave them over to.A child’s reality is seeing things the way they want to see them.They pretend into reality the things they wish to see, like a Christian walk without the cross and the suffering that is necessary for spiritual growth.They refuse to see the truth, for they’ve blinded themselves through their rebellion, says the Lord.Although they see reality and have heard the truth of the gospel, they choose rather; like little children, to believe something else—purposely deceiving themselves rather than having to face reality.Seeing, followed by believing, which means putting into action what they’ve seen, would prove that they are at least attempting to mature, and it is this type of religion that is pleasing to your heavenly Father.[James 1:21ff, Matthew 7:24-27]Have I not said in My Word that to those who choose to love a lie over the truth that I will give them over to believing these lies?That I will even send a deluding influence upon them so that they will believe that which is false and be judged accordingly?[2 Thessalonians 2:10,11]Do they not take the Lord at His word and believe it?”

When I heard this, I was deeply disturbed and troubled at the thought of this.“Lord, this is your wrath, and it is an awful thing to see!I always thought that the wrath of God was fire and brimstone and cataclysmic judgment, but now I see Your wrath in a much different way!I see your judgment upon people happening right now, and we don’t even see it!How do I warn them of this?”

And the Lord said to me, “You must show them all that I’ve spoken to you here, and despite whether they pay heed to you or not, you must tell them, for your Lord is merciful and full of compassion and I desire to heal their iniquity and their backsliding.I am a just and true God, and I will render unto each person accordingly.Judgment is coming upon your nation, and it is not My will that any man should perish, therefore I send My watchmen to those who call themselves My people.I send My watchmen forth with a message from the throne of the Most High God in hopes that there will be those who will listen and take to heed concerning the blindness that they’ve been given over to.It is My desire to heal them and forgive them so that I can save them.Do you not know that the Lord loves these people and that He grieves over them with great anguish?”

And I shook my head and said, “I do not understand that kind of love, Lord—it is too great for me.Forgive my shallowness and lack of understanding, please.Forgive my hardness of heart toward those who are perishing O God, and give me Your compassion, that I may speak to them from my heart and not just out of obedience”

And the Lord said, “My ways are not man’s ways.My ways are higher than man’s ways, therefore you must tell the people all that I have spoken to you, because it is for their benefit.Tell them that I love them and do not desire to lose them when I bring My judgment down upon your country.Tell them that I desire to show them the error of their ways so that they might repent and I would in turn heal them of their sins and their backsliding.Tell them that I desire to save them and to be with them in the Paradise of God, for they are My creation, made in My own image, and I My desire is that none of them would be lost.Tell them all that I have spoken to you, for this is the word of the Lord!”

“When the first two judgments come upon your country, they will drive many to their knees.There will be those who will indeed repent, but the vast majority will harden their hearts toward Me and many will curse Me in that day.And in their weakened state I shall bring forth terrors upon them such as they have never known before!This shall be the third judgment upon your country.”

“And what will this judgment be, Lord?” I asked.

“I have shown pieces of this judgment to many people over the years, the signs of terror that will come upon America at the time of her end.Mists, vapors, powders and stars falling from the heavens upon her cities, pestilence and foreign troops and terror of every conceivable fashion shall come upon her when the third wave of judgment passes over her.Imprisonment andmartyrdom shall be the norm in that day, and many will flee for their lives in order to escape the terrors that await the living.The great cataclysmic judgments that men have seen and written about shall all descend upon her during her final days, and the government will be powerless to do anything to stop them, says the Lord.The economy will no longer be an issue in that day, as there will be nothing left to buy and sell, and America as a nation will be in ruins, never to rise up again.Her soldiers will have been spread out in every direction upon the globe, tending to the various duties abroad, and they will never see their homeland again.So sobering will things be at that time that no one will be preaching the gospel for money, and those who would attempt to do so will be captured and killed.And for this reason, many will abandon Me in that day, denying Me before men in their attempt to merely live one more day.And the word ‘Rapture’ will be forgotten in that day, and the people will know that they’ve been taught wrongly concerning this doctrine.”

“But, I will have a people, says the Lord—a people who will walk through this coming fire, a people who will miraculously survive, despite all of the odds which will be stacked up against them.This will be due to My divine protection upon them, the sealing of these servants by My angels as is written in My Word.”[Revelation 7, Ezekiel 9]

“Have I not shown Myself to be faithful in protecting My people in days past? says the Lord.Have you not read in My Word how I spared Daniel in the lion’s den, how I kept the three young men in the furnace of fire, how I kept My people when I struck their oppressors?And do you still not believe that I will spare My people even when judgments are falling all around them?”

“Ten times did I strike the oppressors of My people, declares the Lord, and each time that judgment fell upon them, My people were kept safe from harm.Ten times did I strike them—with boils and with blood and darkness, with hail and locusts and frogs and swarms of insects, and I struck their cattle and their firstborn.And did I not spare My own in that day?When the judgments fell upon the Egyptians, were not My own people exempt? says the Lord.And when I parted the Red Sea and made safe passage for My people, what did the oppressors of My people do?They sought to destroy My people, using the same miraculous passage that I had provided for them.And did I not destroy them all because of this? says the Lord.And so shall it be now, as you will see many who are soon to be plagued, and few who will be spared.And let it be known beforehand that there will be a definite distinction between those whom the Lord spares and those who He does not spare, for the Lord knows those who are truly His and He will make it well-known before men in that day.Many are called, and yet few are chosen, and is it not written that at the time of the end that the love of the many shall grow cold? [Matthew 24:12]Therefore, know beforehand that he Lord will make a definite distinction, which will be visible to all in that day concerning those who are truly His people and those who are not.It is when the many seek to pillage and destroy those whom I have protected so that they might live—when they seek to devour that which I have spared, then you shall see Mine hand strike without mercy, and many shall be the slain in that day.”

“And just who are the oppressors of My people? you would ask.Are they not children[Isaiah 3:12]—those who refuse to grow up and face the responsibility of maturing and growing up? says the Lord.

“Tell the people of this coming terror” the Lord said to me.“Tell them that I love them and I am heartbroken over the things I see being committed in My name.Tell them that if they desire to remain as children and to deceive themselves into believing only what they want to believe, then I have no other option but to give them over to these lies, and that it will cost them everything! says the Lord.Tell them that if they continue to see as through the eyes of a child that they will never mature into that which I would desire of them, and that in the end I will indeed label them as children—children of disobedience, whom I take no pleasure in.”

“The United States of America has become a nation of children, a nation that thrives upon watching boys grow up to play boys’ games—giving great honor, prestige and riches to those who refuse to grow up, to those who choose youth over wisdom and maturity.And so much time and money and effort is put into the vanity of looking young and not having to face the reality of growing old!It is time to put away your vanity, My people—it is time to humble yourselves and to be done with it. It is time to grow up My people!Do you think that I will warn you of this many more times before it’s too late to escape the coming terror upon your country?This is the word of the Lord!”

There are those who have asked me, “When do you think that this economic crisis is going to begin?”All I can tell them what the Lord told me concerning this.In June of 2000 the Lord spoke to me and said, “On the sixth day of the sixth month of the new millennium, the evil powers in charge have an evil plan devised.”The Lord did not tell me what this evil plan was, nor what it pertained to, but it seemed to point to a judgment upon the American economy.

He also told me that we’re to watch the country’s reaction to the execution of Timothy McVeigh—especially the reaction in Oklahoma City where the bombing took place.He is scheduled to die in May of 2001, and if the people rejoice over his death I feel that this will be a sign that our nation is about to fall under the judgment of God.I cannot with surety say “thus saith the Lord” concerning that, but I have a very strong feeling about it.I was led to move to Oklahoma three weeks before the bombing occurred, and below you will read what the Lord showed me concerning the bombing and the court’s verdict upon Mr. McVeigh.I felt that the Lord was telling me recently that because people in this country have refused His meat and chose instead to live on milk, that He will one day not far hence bring a plague upon our livestock, taking away the abundance of meat and milk that we’ve become so used to—and this will have a devastating affect upon our economy.

I know that there have been many “date setters” that have come up short on their “predictions,” and it’s not my desire to be one of them.Predictions come from men, whereas prophecy comes from the Lord.If these words are truly of the Lord, then they will come to pass, and if they are only vain imaginings from my carnal mind, then they will not come to pass.I ask each of you be the judge of this.Please read about what the Lord says concerning the Oklahoma City bombing and how it affects us as a nation.

The bombing of the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City on April 19, 1995 made national headlines for weeks.Anyone who turned on the TV during that time saw the continual news reports on the bombing.Across the screen would flash the central theme, “Terror in the Heartland.”The Lord told me to watch what happened after this was all over, for a sign would be shown that would expose the heart of something concerning the whole nation.After a period of time, the bombing became old news, and then there was the trial which was held in Denver.When the verdict was about to be read, the Lord reminded me again to pay attention, for it would be a sign that would show the heart of something concerning the whole country.I asked the Lord, “What do I do?”and He replied that I needed to buy a newspaper and that I would find the answer in it.As you well know, the jury found Mr. McVeigh guilty, and sentenced him to die by lethal injection.The day after the death penalty was handed down, the answer came.In Oklahoma City, the people rejoiced over the sentence, and the newspaper stated that “The churches were ringing their bells every half hour, rejoicing.”The churches in the heartland were rejoicing when they saw their enemy judged, and in doing so they set themselves up to receive their own judgment at the hand of the Lord.”

The Word of God says:

“Rejoice not when your enemy falls, and let not your heart be glad when he stumbles or is overthrown; lest the Lord see it, and it be evil in His eyes and displease Him, and He turn away His wrath from him [to expend it upon you, the worse offender].” PROVERBS 24:17,18 Amplified Version

Virgin Mary was Not a “Perpetual Virgin”

Did the young Jewish woman Mary remain a virgin AFTER Jesus Christ was born into this world? The answer is absolutely NO! In fact Mary gave birth to several other children AFTER the birth of Jesus! Mary and Joseph had a natural marital sexual relationship, AFTER the birth of Jesus Christ into this world.  Read the Bible for yourself!

Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us. Then Joseph being raised from sleep did as the angel of the Lord had bidden him, and took unto him his wife: And KNEW HER NOT TILL she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS. (Matthew 1:22-25)

Reading this may upset some folks who’ve been taught that the “Virgin Mary” so-called, the mother of Jesus, remained a virgin until the end of her life. But, this doesn’t line up with what the scriptures have to say about it. This is where we need to go to get the truth and keep from being deceived.  I was checking out some scripture in Mark ch.6 today, where it speaks of folks in Jesus country, or hometown, who knew him, and had probably known him as he grew up. They knew he was trained as a carpenter, (this was before he began his ministry), and they knew his mother and his brothers and sisters. 

6 And he went out from thence, and came into his own country; and his disciples follow him.

And when the sabbath day was come, he began to teach in the synagogue: and many hearing him were astonished, saying, From whence hath this man these things? and what wisdom is this which is given unto him, that even such mighty works are wrought by his hands?

Is not this the carpenter, the son of Mary, the brother of James, and Joses, and of Juda, and Simon? and are not his sisters here with us? And they were offended at him.

But Jesus, said unto them, A prophet is not without honour, but in his own country, and among his own kin, and in his own house.

And he could there do no mighty work, save that he laid his hands upon a few sick folk, and healed them.

And he marvelled because of their unbelief. And he went round about the villages, teaching. Mark 6

 

More proofs!

It seems many folks will try to shove a round peg into a square hole, in an attempt to force it into their own belief system. For example, on YouTube, one Catholic guy claimed he had a “special grace” that “proved” that Jesus didn’t have any siblings. His “reasoning” consisted of the fact that Jesus had the Apostle John care for Mary, and that it would naturally follow if Jesus had brothers, (siblings), then of course they would have taken Mary into their home. Well, sorry, but that isn’t “proof”. It’s just carnal reasoning, or as the Word says, “leaning to ones own understanding”. The following is a more logical scenario; as we can see, Jesus brothers in the natural were not believers, they were scornful of him and possibly envious. Mary on the other hand, was not only the mother of Jesus but a devout believer and follower as well. Why would Jesus designate unbelieving, scornful jealous brothers to take care of his precious mother? Also, there is no record of his sibling brothers present at Jesus crucifixion.

7 After this, Jesus went around in Galilee. He did not want[a] to go about in Judea because the Jewish leaders there were looking for a way to kill him. 2 But when the Jewish Festival of Tabernacles was near, 3 Jesus’ brothers said to him, “Leave Galilee and go to Judea, so that your disciples there may see the works you do. 4 No one who wants to become a public figure acts in secret. Since you are doing these things, show yourself to the world.” 5 For even his own brothers did not believe in him. John 7 (This text is in all English versions)

6 Therefore Jesus told them, “My time is not yet here; for you any time will do. 7 The world cannot hate you, but it hates me because I testify that its works are evil. 8 You go to the festival. I am not[b] going up to this festival, because my time has not yet fully come.” 9 After he had said this, he stayed in Galilee.

10 However, after his brothers had left for the festival, he went also, not publicly, but in secret. 11 Now at the festival the Jewish leaders were watching for Jesus and asking, “Where is he?”

 

It says what it says! No matter what “tradition” had to say about it. “Tradition” had to be based on something, but it didn’t precede the actual happenings of the miraculous birth of Jesus. “Tradition” wasn’t there, present, at the birth of the Christ child. No, the original scriptures are what counts. The scripture, the LOGOS, the written Word of God trumps tradition, no matter what you’ve been told or taught.  Can you see how it changes EVERYTHING to know the Truth about just these crucial verses!! If they’d lie to you about this, then what else would they lie about? Good question, huh? 

Folks, you don’t have to be a bible scholar, a member of the “clergy class”, a “theologian”, etc. God has given you a mind to comprehend and use, rather than taking a man, or even a multitude of men’s  say so about it. You can read the scriptures for yourself and understand the essence, the “gist” of it just fine, if you will just do it. Jesus said so, if YOU will do it, not someone else trying to do it for you. They might get it wrong, or….it may be that someone deceived them, or….it could be Satan at work again, trying to deceive everyone, as he has from the beginning, and we KNOW he has an agenda. Read and continue in Jesus Word, the Bible, as he has said;

“Then said Jesus to those Jews who believed on him, If you continue in my word, then are you my disciples indeed;

And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. “John 8: 31-32

Again! Mary had other children! At least 7 including Jesus, according to the above scripture, the inspired Word of God!  It is an abomination to God to add to, or take away from the scriptures, which men have done in this and many other instances. Do not be part of this any longer. We must get into the Word of God ourselves, or we aren’t going to be able to stand in the evil day, and we will be deceived.

 

 

Kenneth Hagin-Spiritual Gifts-Word of Knowledge-Move of the Spirit?

 In times past, I’ve been blessed by Kenneth Hagin’s teachings.  However, in recent years I have come to believe that even very godly men and women can succumb to seducing spirits. As the Bible says…. that “even the very elect can be deceived, if it were possible”, and believe me brethren when I say it’s not only possible; it happens. I have come to believe that this happened to Kenneth Hagin in the later years of his life, a man I admired and trusted BEFORE these weird manifestations began to appear in His life. I once found his teachings to “work” in the area of healing and faith. I never adhered to the “prosperity doctrine” and I don’t believe that’s what Hagin taught or believed, as some critics have claimed. I simply did not want to believe that Kenneth Hagin could fall from grace, but then neither did the followers of Oral Roberts,  Jimmy Swagart and others. Nevertheless, it is important to separate the precious from the vile. We must all learn in our spiritual walk to learn to discern accurately what the bible teaches. That said, there are good teachers in Christianity, but we must first and foremost learn from our own bibles, practice holiness, not just talk it, and follow the Holy Spirit, not any man. Would I still watch Kenneth Hagins videos and teachings. Yes, the older ones, but I will no longer post this type of video. I was very opposed to the Rodney Browne manifestations, which is where this type of false annointing began in recent times.

 

The following text is from the Rich Vermillion blog which contains the rebuke Kenneth Hagin gave to those ministers who were corrupting his teachings in the Word Faith ministry, and perverting it over into a false prosperity doctrine of greed and covetousness.  The ministers Kenneth Hagin called to this meeting were included in the text below. The shame is that none of them listened to their mentor’s godly counsel. Unfortunately, the reputation of the early years of godly ministry and life of Kenneth Hagin has suffered because of these greedy men. Worse still, is that the godly teachings of Kenneth Hagin also have suffered. That is just like the devil to try to destroy what God has raised up, but I am praying that God will resurrect the true message and power of the healing ministry he began with powerful men of God…..men such as Kenneth Hagin and a few others such as Smith Wigglesworth,  and Lester Sumrall. Such men of God are like rare gems in the crown of the Body of Christ.

 

It took a lifetime of obedience and faithfulness to Jesus and the Word of God for Kenneth Hagin to attain to the power the Lord entrusted him with, and the anointing of the Holy Spirit that flowed through him in power at one time,and in many of his meetings. Yet, today, the Body of Christ is so weak  and powerless they deny that Brother Hagin was ever real, because they have no evidence of it in their own lives. The reason why? It’s because they would have to take the same steps that Hagin did to get the same results. Steps of faith, obedience, faithfulness.  Like the saying goes, salvation is free, but it’s not cheap. There will be a price to pay. Jesus told us what that price would be, and what He requires of us, “Take up YOUR CROSS, DENY YOUR SELF, AND FOLLOW HIM”. Are you willing to do that? Are you desperate enough? Are you hungry enough for more of Jesus that you will forsake all, to do all that He requires like Kenneth Hagin did? Then changes are that God will raise you up in a new fresh anointing.

 

http://kennethcopelandblog.com/2008/11/11/rev-hagins-previous-rebuke-of-copeland/

 Reverend Hagin’s Previous Rebuke of Kenneth Copeland

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Rich’s Note: Before our post Kenneth and Gloria Copeland: The Untold Story became our most highly viewed article, this post about Kenneth E. Hagin was by far the most popular post on KennethCopelandBlog.com. In fact, it still garners a very high traffic rating today. Consequently, let me please point out that there is additional important information contained in the new FAQ page of this blog that relates (either directly or indirectly) to this very same topic. Thus, in addition to reading this important post about Hagin’s efforts to correct “prosperity gospel” excesses, I encourage you to review that FAQ data also, as well as the several other informative pages which you can find listed on the Table of Contents page.

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Many people have enjoyed the teaching of the Word of Faith message through the years, while many others have been quite critical of that message. Some have actually been hurt or traumatized by professing “Word of Faith ministers” who pushed their doctrines to self-serving extremes (and unfortunately, some of these false-ministers are so-called “leaders” within the movement). Meanwhile, many other believers have found sound principles within balanced teaching of faith as taught by some of God’s honest ministers, applied it to their own situations—and have experienced tremendous blessing and victory as a result.Regardless of the type of exposure, however, most people at least familiar with the “Word of Faith message” are also quite familiar with the fact that the late Rev. Kenneth E. Hagin is considered the proverbial “father” of the movement. However…

Few seem to be aware of the fact that Brother Hagin (aka, “Dad Hagin”) had convened a special meeting in Tulsa, Oklahoma on the campus of RHEMA Bible Training Center, circa the Fall of 1999. The topic: Excesses and error present within the “prosperity” message being taught by the major Word of Faith ministries.

My own former senior pastor was one of those in attendance. The first Sunday following that special meeting, he detailed publicly to the entire congregation (in both services) what had occurred. I was present to hear those details (in both services) since I was one of the Associate Pastors on staff there (in addition to hearing this same information privately as well). Thus my recollection of these events is confirmed by the memories of my fellow ministers and the many Christians who heard these same facts.

Among those whom the pastor reported to have been in attendance at that meeting were:

Kenneth Copeland
Creflo Dollar
Jerry Savelle
Jesse Duplantis
Mac Hammond
and Steve Parson (my former senior pastor)

Also summoned to the meeting was the “money cometh” preacher himself, Dr. Leroy Thompson. He refused to attend, however. Steve Parson explained to us that Mac Hammond reported to the group in attendance that he had previously called Leroy Thompson to find out why he was refusing to attend. “God told me not to come,” he replied. “That’s funny,” reportedly answered Mac, “God told me to call you and tell you to come. So one of us is missing it.”

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Wisdom Speaks

When those who had agreed to attend were present in the room, Brother Hagin explained (and I paraphrase), “I called you all together to this special meeting because I need to address some error and excess in within the Word of Faith ‘camp’ regarding the prosperity message. I have written a book entitled, The Midas Touch: A Balanced Approach to Biblical Prosperity, and it will be coming out very soon. In order to avoid strife and confusion among our ranks, however, I wanted to convene this meeting and address these issues with you—the major Word of Faith ministries teaching this doctrine—in person first. That way, you all can adjust your messages accordingly before the book comes out, and there will be no contention among us.”

Reportedly, Kenneth Copeland then responded before the group, “If I am in error in any way, please feel free to correct me.” However, as we will soon learn, Copeland’s profession before the group to his own personal mentor and one of his “fathers in the faith” (along with Oral Roberts) would seem to have failed to manifest in full.

Unfortunately, Copeland’s own protégé (i.e. Creflo Dollar) seemed to do a better job than Copeland in following is own mentor’s lead. He has apparently followed Copeland back into the same errors previously addressed by Brother Hagin—rather than the sound and seasoned counsel given by the senior leader of the Word of Faith movement.

Regardless, Brother Hagin did share with those ministers that day his biblical counsel. Further, he gave them all advanced copies of the paperback edition of the book, which was subsequently released in 2000. In 2002 the hardback edition of The Midas Touch came out on the market, and is now the only version available “new” at the time of this writing.

So what did Brother Hagin have to say to them in that meeting? Well, exactly what was written within that very book that they were all given. Consequently, we will examine in the next video the details of what that book clearly articulates—which are the same corrections ministered that day by Rev. Hagin to those ministers present:

This is video 7 of many, from the KennethCopelandBlog.com exposure project by Rich Vermillion (who actually knows the man and wrote a book with him). Please visit the blog to see all the information (including text/downloads) as well as all the videos.

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Love Your Neighbor-Love Never Fails

 

 

Matthew 22:37-40, “Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.”

It is as simple as that! If everybody loved the Lord and each other, like Christ loved us, there would be no sin in the world! There would be no murder, no hate, no bitterness, no adultery, no stealing nor any other kind of sin, if we only loved the Lord with all our heart and our neighbor as our own self!

1 Corinthians 13

King James Version
1Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. 2And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing. 3And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing.

4Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up, 5Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil; 6Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth; 7Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.

8Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away. 9For we know in part, and we prophesy in part. 10But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away. 11When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things. 12For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known. 13And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.

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