Apostate Church~”Come Out of Her My People”! Jesus Serious Warning!

 

You may think the following is a little too frivolous to be taken seriously by many Christians, but listen~ many in today’s mainstream organized churches are doing what amounts to the same thing. Jesus was serious when he warned, “Come out of her My people, and do not partake of her sins-or her plagues”. What was he talking about?

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation+18:4&version=KJV

He was talking about the organized mainstream church many are being deceived by!

Does this look like the holiness and obedience Jesus wants us to emulate? Loving and obeying him and his commandments? Or this hybrid, counterfeit?

 

By the way, “coming out of her my people, does not mean we should go into faux Internet Discernment Ministries, as a substitute! Do not settle for anything less than the pure gospel of Jesus Christ. See our post Mystery Meat Internet Ministries here:

https://spiritualabusesanctuary.wordpress.com/2012/03/27/mystery-meat-internet-discernment-ministries/

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Warning to the Lukewarm Church!

Some folks may find this a little extreme…

Well, maybe it is, but so was Jesus warning to the churches in the Book of Revelation. Especially the church of Laodicia!

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation%203:14-19&version=KJV

Revelation 3:13-19

King James Version (KJV)

14And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;

15I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.

16So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.

17Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:

18I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.

19As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.

Leaving Church & Finding Jesus

The more I study this phenomenon of spiritual abuse, apostasy, and the reasons good people find to leave the church they may have been part of for many years, the more I find that there may not be any single reason, but perhaps, instead, a variety of reasons. However, the one basic thing that stands out, is that those who come out are those who are seeking truth, (not backsliding, per se), and haven’t found the truth of the gospel of Jesus in the institutional, organized church.

To me, the very fact that those of us seeking truth and not finding it in “church” constitutes spiritual abuse on the part of the church system. And if truth no longer is being presented in the form of the true gospel of Jesus Christ, then it’s apostasy, a falling away from the pure faith once presented to the saints, as it was in the early church.

I have my own personal story, and like many others, after being born again, I had accepted the “traditional” view, that one ” must not forsake the assembling together”. The translation to that is that one must join with a bunch of other Christians in whatever denomination or fellowship of choice, inside a building, and then “be there” every time the church is open for business.

And make no mistake, it is a business, if the church is signed up with the government, (state), and has opted for a 501C3 tax exempt status, http://hushmoney.org/501c3-myths.htm ….then, as man made tradition in the US organized church goes, one can then pay illegal “tithes”,http://www.nomoretithing.org/nmt_links.htm   to support the church, pay the pastor, (never a paid position in the early church), and the various and MANY expenses of running a business and paying for a building where people are commanded, (by Nicolaitan leadership to meet), etc. ( More on this set of  indoctrinational intrusions into our personal spiritual liberty in Jesus later in another post perhaps). But for now, let’s look at some of the reasons God has brought good people out of the organized church. Something to think about….

God brought this woman out of church so that she could find him…and then he began to teach her the true meaning of “being born again”, and serving him. A personal case study we can learn from:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0q58H_a7j20&feature=player_embedded

I’m praying that many others will get their own eyes and ears opened to hear the truth, and seek Jesus Christ through his Word, the Bible, and prayer, being led by the Holy Spirit. I believe the LORD will lead his people to Truth, and as they abide in obedience, he will lead them into fellowship with true believers, other disciples seeking his liberty and truth.

So You Left an Abusive Church~Now What?

Have you recently left “church”, that is to say, the building, and the system? Maybe you felt the Holy Spirit was showing you things just weren’t right. You may have noticed the church you’d belonged to didn’t bear any resemblance to the early church that Jesus started in the book of Acts.

Or, possibly you were being spiritually abused in some way by either the pastor, or one of more of the church members. For whatever reason, you’re out….so, now that you’re out….now what?

My brother or sister, you may have a vague sense of relief, or possibly any number of emotions you never realized you’d have to deal with. Rest assured, you are not alone.

Many of us have gone through the entire gamut of mentally anguishing doubts and feelings, ranging from anger, guilt, fear, loneliness and a feeling of isolation. Here is where the going gets serious. Now that you’re out, there is the “world” surrounding you on every side. At this point, it’s crucial to take some time reorienting yourself to your newly “unchurched” circumstances.

Please realize, that although you may “feel” alone, Christ is still with you. He did say he’d never leave or forsake you. And although you may have left the church, hopefully, you haven’t left him as well. That would be the worse mistake one could possibly make.

In any case, this is the juncture in your life where you will need to lean on him heavily for support and guidance. Bear in mind that Jesus is your Hope and Anchor. He will see you through this spiritual crisis if you will allow him to.

Personally, in my own wilderness journey, and isolation, I found it extremely important to resist the temptation to turn “outward” for support to fill that spiritual void. There is just something about humans, that like nature, abhor  a void. But, the LAST thing one would need to do is turn back to Egypt, and the bondage that Jesus set you free from.

So, there is a need for spiritual discipline at this time….a need to stay in regular daily study of the scriptures, and in prayer and communication with Jesus. Just being “out” of church doesn’t relief us of the need for him any less. In fact, in the time of spiritual crisis, this is the time when we need him the most.

God bless all of you who may be in a stage of transition right now…however, you may very well find that this “testing” time is very rewarding and strengthening once on the other side. Please……..give yourself, (and Jesus) time. Time to seek him for direction and guidance. One of the WORST possible things you may be tempted to do is to rush to find another fellowship soon after leaving one. This can result in the frying pan- fire syndrome….so, please don’t!

And…another word of warning…Satan has set up many traps for unchurched believers. The internet is one of them. Please don’t fall for what I call, “Mystery Meat” Internet Ministries, that are set up to have an illusion of “church” complete with a teacher, etc. One of the ways, (not the only one by any means) is the hirelings ever present PayPal Acct to accept your donations. Bear in mind that maybe this “teacher” has an ulterior motive…(like money, for example). Maybe he needs to get out of his PJ’s, leave his laptop, and get a real job, ya think?

Well, what I’m trying to say, is these so-called “internet” ministries may look like a viable option to a real fellowship of brethren, but frankly, it’s not. Think “early church”, and pray about following that example. The LORD may simply lead you to eventually gather with a few like minded believers in one another’s homes for prayer, bible study, and breaking bread together. That was the model of the church that Jesus set up in the book of Acts, and it shook the world with it’s power. “For where there are two or more gathered together in His Name, there He will be also”. It’s a PROMISE.

 

 

 

Church Bullies and other Spiritual Abusers

 

http://intruthandlove.wordpress.com/2010/01/17/church-bullies/

How sad…the stories of bullying and spiritual abuse go on and on and on. I have thought and prayed about this issue many times, and have come to the conclusion that the root of the problem has to lay in the thing that Jesus said he hated, “The doctrines and Deeds of the Nicolaitans”, in the book of Revelation. http://solidrockspeople.org/deedsnicolaitanes.htm.

Long story short, where the “clergy”, (pastors, preachers, teachers, elders, and others in leadership roles), lord it over the “laity”, (sheep) in the household of God. How does Jesus regard that, when he told his disciples to be servants, not overlords like the gentiles?
The doctrine and deeds of the Nicolaitans began manifesting early on in the Body of Christ, and was “perfected”, so to speak, in the Roman Catholic church. However, even after the Reformation, this practice has continued in churches across the West, and in the United States to this very day. I would say that nearly 100% of the organized church operates under the Nicolaitan system, and as a result has become apostate as a result. Apostasy has been described in scripture as the “falling away”. Falling away from what?….Fallen away from the True Church, the called out ones, The Body of Christ, who’s head is supposed to be Jesus. The Church that was set up in the Book of Acts, after Pentecost, with the congregation taking part in the assembly under the five fold ministry.
When something, in this case, the church, has established itself under a false leadership, instead of having Christ as it’s HEAD, aberrations such as spiritual abuse, bullying, power grabbing, assuming preeimmence an “Absolam spirit”, fear, control and manipulation, and all other manner of heretical practices eventually manifest and spoil true worship in the household of God. These things should not be.
What can be done, “if the foundations be destroyed”? After doing much prayer and study, I’ve personally come to the conclusion that the “apostate, fallen away, Nicolaitan churches”, cannot be reformed by personal effort, they can only be abandoned.
Jesus Himself, eventually pulled me out of the fire of these churches, (after teaching me the pitfalls through experiencing it for myself). I am further convinced that the admonition, “Beware of the leaven of the Pharisees” was and is, Jesus warning that this leaven exists in churches everywhere, and indeed, we should be aware of it and avoid it, “lest we be partakers of their sins…and their plagues”. By remaining in such places, we only tend to prop them up and “legitimize” them by our presence. Those who become accomplices, by trying to stay in the system and correct it, even by enduring spiritual abuse and bullying, do so at their own peril.

This is for your discernment. If you have been hurt, bullied, or otherwise spiritually abused in church or by someone in church, pray about it earnestly, and ask God if He truly wants you to remain in such an atmosphere.

And may the peace and grace of God be with you~

Spiritual Abuse..Rampant in Today’s Churches

I wonder…how many Christians  are still locked into spiritual abuse in their local church or fellowship, and don’t even realize what they are giving allegiance to with their time, worship and money is “not all about Jesus Christ”, but rather man made doctrines, traditions of men that make the word of God of no effect. 

As a new Christian, this happened to me during my first years after joining a church. I’d been studying the word of God, I’d prayed earnestly, I was “on fire” for God, yet, something was nagging at my heart. Doubts. I kept asking myself why this church and other ones I’d visited didn’t seem to line up with the biblical model of the  church that Christ set up in the early church, described in the Book of Acts, and the epistles of the Apostles.

I knew that when I went to church and worshipped, the presence of the Holy Spirit would manifest, so I continued to rationalize that “church” as I experienced it, must be due to the change in the era. Still, the Holy Spirit kept reminding me that “Jesus doesn’t change”. He is the same today, yesterday and forever. I couldn’t shake this still small voice.

Finally, as I grew more mature in the scriptures, I started noticing there were practices in the church I belonged to that were mimicking the un-scriptural things they viewed on Christian TV. When I began hesitantly speaking to a few of my friends in church about these questions, they began to come against me. Looking back on the events that followed, I realize now, these were warning signals given me by the Holy Spirit.The upshot was that God Himself drew me out of this  spiritually abusive prison house of apostasy I’d been trapped in. I cannot begin to describe to you the sense of freedom, and liberation in my spirit, once out. However, that doesn’t mean there were not after effects from the abuse, rejection, and sense of isolation I felt after leaving the brethren and fellowship I loved.  There were many, and it has taken much time with Jesus to bring me through what was a very painful period in my life.

Folks, we should closely examine what our churches are teaching and practicing. For all of you who’ve come out of spiritually abusive churches, or..perhaps you feel you may be in one, I would recommend some of the excellent resources on the Internet where you can find help and fellowship with other Christians. This is one very good one that covers these issues in depth,  http://www.charismatic-captivation.com/?p=5 . And of course, you are welcome to make comments here in this blog and tell your personal story. We welcome comments.